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bemildred

(90,061 posts) Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:05 AM Dec 2014

Germany anti-Islam protests: 17,000 march on Dresden against 'Islamification of the West'

More than 17,000 people have marched on the German city of Dresden protesting the “Islamification of Europe” as a wave of xenophobia sweeps the country.

Supports of Pegida – a growing group calling itself the “Patriotic Europeans against the Islamification of the West” – filled the city’s historic square singing Christmas carols and waving German flags on Monday.

Its leaders have been dismissed as “Nazis in pinstripes” and the group’s rise has coincided with arson attacks on refugee hostels and the daubing of swastikas on city walls, but the controversy has not dissuaded supporters.

“We are the people,” a post on the group’s Facebook page proclaimed after Monday’s protest, claiming a record attendance of more than 20,000 people.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-antiislam-protests-17000-march-on-dresden-against-islamification-of-the-west-9941656.html

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Germany anti-Islam protests: 17,000 march on Dresden against 'Islamification of the West' (Original Post) bemildred Dec 2014 OP

So much for the myth of the Kinder, Gentler, More Hip, More Understanding MADem Dec 2014 #1

Yeah, it's pretty much universal. bemildred Dec 2014 #2

And the MSM is hyping it jakeXT Dec 2014 #3

Apparently the State's monopoly on violence extends also to a monopoly on lying. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #4

MADem

(135,425 posts)

1. So much for the myth of the Kinder, Gentler, More Hip, More Understanding

Reply to bemildred (Original post)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:18 AM

Dec 2014

Europe.

Europeans were so accustomed to their homogeneous societies that when they started getting vast influxes of people who didn't look like them, act like them or worship like them, that they had a rough time of it.

They never minded a "few" others--they liked to tout their "tolerant" bona fides and suggest that they did it better than those awful Americans with their race riots and messiness and demonstrations and marches.

Now, they're starting to realize that they don't have their shit together. It's an interesting thing to see. I think they'll probably go further to the right before they realize that this is a big world and it's getting smaller and more mingled.

It's not just Germany, either. Other nations in the region have their own wingnut parties that are gaining ascendance.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

2. Yeah, it's pretty much universal.

Reply to MADem (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:23 AM

Dec 2014

You get enough immigrants or "outsiders" coming in and you will also get enraged locals who don't want to deal with it. "Get off my lawn!" People don't like change. Only in places where people grow up dealing with people who look different and have different customs does that rule not hold, and even then it is no slam dunk if change is too rapid. And we are in a period of rapid global change.

jakeXT

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3. And the MSM is hyping it

Reply to bemildred (Original post)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:38 AM

Dec 2014

Germany anti-Islam Pegida protests: Undercover reporter fired for playing right-winger role too well

A German undercover journalist has been sacked for giving an interview to a rival TV network while posing as an anti-Islam demonstrator during a far-right protest.

Felix Reichstein, a reporter with the private RTL broadcaster, was mingling with far-right militants at a 15,000 -strong demonstration in Dresden last week, when a fellow journalist stopped him to ask for a comment on the perceived Islamisation of Germany.

The journalist, who did not identify himself, stayed in character during the interview, saying: "When you go out, there really are a lot of Turks.

"I get on with many of them fine, but it comes to the point where you think 'are we really still German in Germany?" Reichstein continued, according to The Local.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/germany-anti-islam-pegida-protests-undercover-reporter-fired-playing-right-winger-role-too-well-1480780

bemildred

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4. Apparently the State's monopoly on violence extends also to a monopoly on lying. nt

Reply to jakeXT (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:53 AM

Dec 2014

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