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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 12:32 PM Jan 2015

What the MSM Is Failing to Tell You

The missing context behind the recent Hizballah attacks on Israel, and ISIS attacks on Saudi Arabia.

Yesterday two Israeli soldiers were killed and seven others were wounded by a Hizballah rocket attack from across the Lebanese border. On January 6, three Saudi border guards were killed by an ISIS suicide squad just inside Saudi territory. What, if anything beyond the militarily obvious, do these two incidents have in common?

Plenty. Three things (why is it always three?) come readily to (my) mind.

First, and of least importance, is the oft-noted fact that American mainstream media habits have devolved into providing mostly context-free information points, so that little to no background is provided to help readers turn information into knowledge. It was not always so, but it is so now. We generally get only dots, not lines or shapes, and certainly not useful three-dimensional displays. But both the recent Israeli and Saudi episodes have backgrounds that do enable information to become knowledge. More of this background anon.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2015/01/29/what-the-msm-is-failing-to-tell-you/
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leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. Hizballah seems to be the villain d'jour is this set-piece. Why all the renewed attention?
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jan 2015

The context is the Israeli killing of Hizballah and Iranian commanders fighting ISIS near the Golan Heights. Perhaps, Israel is signalling that it doesn't like the outcomes of Iranian gains in Syria and the collapse of the so-called FSA/al-Nusra "moderate" opposition. The other is the succession crisis in KSA, probable instability there, and a potential shift in Saudi policy in the region. A third is US strains with Israel. These go together, perhaps?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. According to J-Post, today, this has more to do with Israeli elections.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/What-was-behind-Israels-strike-in-Syria-that-killed-an-Iranian-general-388759
An Israeli narrative designed to downplay the drone strike and emphasize the inadvertent nature of the Iranian deaths would be an attempt to signal to Iran that the attack didn’t represent a deliberate escalation of the ongoing tensions between the two countries.

The high toll on the Iranian side has drawn the televised promise of retaliation against Israel from a senior Iranian commander, who pledged the release of “ruinous thunderbolts.”

Downplaying the attack would offer Tehran a way to avoid a spiral of escalation that neither country needs or wants. If Iran acceded to this logic, Israel would have scored a major — if accidental — hit. And it would be spared a response from Iran, for now.

The other narrative, that the strike deliberately targeted the Iranian contingent and Hezbollah, is governed by an alternative logic.

(. . . )

That leaves one last question: why attack the Iranians now?

Perhaps, according to the former commander of Israel’s southern front, Yoav Galant, timing was dictated by the Israeli election cycle. As the number two man in the rising Kulanu party, it might be prudent simply to chalk up this claim to his need to challenge Prime Minister Netanyahu’s motivations.

And perhaps that is all it is. Although Galant has since retracted his accusation, the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz has examined the record of especially audacious military initiatives in Israel’s history with an eye on the political calendar. What the reporter discovered was that the June 1981 strike against the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak; the 1996 invasion of Lebanon; the 2009 invasion of Gaza; and the 2012 Gaza war were all launched when the incumbent prime minister faced a close election, or there was a political reputation at stake. There’s an organic link between domestic politics and foreign policy in virtually all countries, so this wouldn’t necessarily be a huge surprise.

With less than two months to election day, polls now show a slightly leftward tilt away from Prime Minister Netanyahu . . .

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. I don't entirely agree with his description of Hezbollah and it's motives,
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jan 2015

or with his description of Israel and its motives, I was more interested in the big picture discussion of the Saudis and takfiris and Iran and so on, the geopolitical discussion, BECAUSE, I am concerned that the sort of changes he talks about are under way, that ISIS is a revolutionary movement, a rising. In other words his analysis of the Saudi political situation. And I had not really thought of it, but if the Houtihis really give Iran a foothold in Yemen, it is going to make a good base from which to destabilize Saudi Arabia. There are Shi'ia in Asir and along the Red Sea coast, and the Houthis are right next door there with close ties.

And the growing prospects for a major religious war in the region.

That said, and omitting some parts of his analysis, I do think it was a bit of tit for tat done for political effect, the Israeli attack and the Hezbollah response.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. Sometimes the comments section is the most interesting part.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jan 2015

This was posted in the J-Post article I linked to, above. I have to admit,many of these same questions have occurred to me of late. The overarching question is: is the Obama Administration preparing for war on Iran or overthrow of the House of Saud? Neither? Both? What do you think?

MikeMusky • 7 days ago

Something has been bothering me. Why has President Obama been allowing fracking in the US, including on government land? Why would he allow it considering the evidence that it may be causing these earthquakes in areas that had not experienced them before? Worried about Global Warming (or Climate Change) but no concern about the effects of fracking? Why would our allies in Saudi Arabia refuse to slow down production even with oil below $50? Are they trying to shut down our fracking industry? I think not. The Royal Family would not exist without the US Military. Not in today's world. While I agree that the low oil prices will hurt countries such as Russia, I do not believe that is the main goal. I believe the surplus of a million barrels per day is in preparation - for war with Iran. Sure, Obama has opened dialog with Iran but I think it is more of a case of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

If you go back to a video from 2007, General Wesley Clark talks about a conversation he had following 9/11. He said that while he was at the Pentagon, he learned that the US planned to invade the following countries: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. We were already in Iraq at the time the video was made but Libya has since fallen and Syria is in turmoil. I am pretty sure Iran is next and that the first shots may have already been fired when Israel killed several Iranians, including a Senior Iranian General. I don’t believe this was a mistake. Despite Iranian promises of “ruinous thunderbolts,” they have yet to retaliate. Or have they? Is it a coincidence that the Iranian backed Houthis took control of the Presidential Palace in Yemen? In the same week King Abdullah passed away? The same week Russia and Iran signed a military cooperation deal? And let’s not forget about what happened in France and how millions of people that would not have been interested in joining the US against Iran may now be more willing to do so. What about all the huge rallies taking place in Germany? Add to that the Russian forces in Ukraine and Russian planes skirting US borders on a more frequent basis and it all seems to make sense. I wonder if reaching out to Cuba could be to prevent our enemies from establishing a base of operations there, as they have in the past. I am afraid that WWIII has already started but pray that I am wrong.


bemildred

(90,061 posts)
5. Let me read it and think about it, I'll respond tomorrow.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jan 2015

I think he is wrong, but I'll have to formulate an argument.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. OK, to answer your question, I don't think we want to destabilize anybody right now,
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 09:54 AM
Feb 2015

far from it. The Obama Admin. would desperately like to get things stabilized again, under control, but without assuming much responsibility for the result, so they could say "see, it worked" or imply some kind of success. There are always, of course, the war lovers littered through the US government and its bureaucracy, and they are using every trick they know to try to provoke something, somewhere.

The comment persons idea that Obama allowed fracking to get enough oil to attack Iran assumes the glut is not real, I think it is. We are in a deflationary economic environment, and gluts are one of the things that happens then.

The rest of his argument is classic coincidence theory.

My present theory of the Israeli Hezbollah spat is that originally it was a provocation pursuant to getting re-elected, which overshot the mark somewhat, thus necessitating allowing a measure of Hezbollah response, all accompanied by the usual apocalyptic fulminations.

I am somewhat concerned that Iran-Syria-Hezbollah-Hamas might get ideas and start something, for a constellation of related reasons, but probably not.

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