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unhappycamper

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Sat Feb 7, 2015, 08:21 AM Feb 2015

ISIS – A US-Saudi Chicken Come Home to Roost

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ISIS – A US-Saudi Chicken Come Home to Roost
Foreign Policy | Saudi Arabia
by Margaret Kimberley | February 5, 2015 - 12:33pm
— from Black Agenda Report

Saudi Arabia is clearly of great importance to the government of the United States. President Obama not only cut short his India trip to visit with newly installed king Salman, but brought along a who’s who of administration officials and congressional leaders for the ride. Secretary of State John Kerry, former secretaries Condoleezza Rice and James Baker, Vice President Joseph Biden, Senator John McCain, Democratic House leader Nancy Pelosi, National Security Adviser Susan Rice, and CIA director John Brennan were all part on the entourage. All that fire power was devoted to a visit which lasted for just a few hours. The show of force was not coincidental.

The reaction of the corporate media to the death of the late Saudi king Abdullah tells us everything we need to know about the United States/Saudi axis of evil. It is one thing for the president to call Abdullah his friend and for the secretary of state to claim that the absolute monarch was a “man of wisdom and vision” but it is another for the media to parrot the same words. The New York Times called Abdullah a “shrewd force” and a “cautious reformer.” He didn’t reform the policies of beheading and flogging his citizens or creating instability in other countries. Those facts don’t count when our government makes it clear that he was a partner in America’s imperial designs.

It is easy to tell who is and isn’t an American ally just by reading the newspaper. Hugo Chavez was elected president of Venezuela three times but the most positive description from his New York Times obituary referred to him as “a polarizing figure.” Unlike the Saudi royals, Chavez didn’t intervene in the affairs of other nations. In fact he used his nation’s oil wealth to aid neighboring countries. You wouldn’t know any of that from the media which get and obey marching orders that come straight from the White House.

Saudi Arabia gets the kid glove approach from the press because it works hand in hand with Washington. It is now more than thirty years since the Saudis joined the United States in backing jihadists in Afghanistan to drive out a left wing government. The blowback resulted in past allies like Osama bin Laden attacking the United States on September 11, 2001. Similarly, ISIS wouldn’t exist without collusion between the west and the gulf monarchs. Now ISIS makes clear that it wants to rid the region of the same kingdoms that brought it into existence. ISIS is a United States/Saudi chicken that inconveniently came home to roost.

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History can be a bitch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_AWACS_Sale

US–Saudi Arabia AWACS Sale

The sale of AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System) surveillance planes to Saudi Arabia by the United States administration of President Ronald Reagan was a controversial part of what was then the largest foreign arms sale in US history. (See Arms Industry) The sale saw objections from a majority of Americans, prominent US Senators, the State of Israel and the Israel lobby.[1]

The sale included the five E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft and eight KE-3 refueling aircraft, with spare parts and support, delivered between June 1986 and September 1987.[2]

AWACS

The United States Air Force began using the E-3 Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft in 1977 following ten years of prototype design, development, and testing.[3] The U.S. currently has a fleet of 33 AWACS, the largest in the world. NATO possesses 17, the United Kingdom has seven, Saudi Arabia has five, and France has four.[4]

The AWACS plane is a modified Boeing 707 commercial jetliner characterized by the strikingly large thirty-foot rotating antenna mounted on its roof. This antenna can detect and track other aircraft within an area of 175,000 square miles (450,000 km2), flying at any altitude or over any terrain, allowing the AWACS to detect aircraft that remain hidden from ground radar.[5] The planes' mobility is a crucial feature, providing for the use of this sophisticated detection equipment whenever and wherever needed; AWACS can be deployed quickly into military conflict "regardless of intensity" according to Boeing, who claims AWACS are the "world’s standard for airborne early warning systems."[6]

The Saudi AWACS bear Arabic writing on their exterior with a translation below, "Royal Saudi Air Force". The roof-mounted antenna is an AWACS plane’s dominant feature; it is a smooth black disk with a white stripe down the center, and it rotates constantly. The antenna is about a fifth of the length of the plane and it sits higher above the roof than the plane’s roof sits above the ground. Another noticeable difference from a commercial 707 is the lack of passenger windows. Colonel Walt Kowalik said about the lack of windows, "We don't want 'em ... we don't want our people looking out of windows. We want them concentrating on what's in front of them."[5] An Associated Press writer described blue carpet and "subdued" lighting, "as in a movie theatre."[5]

Reaction in the United States

Only months old, the Reagan Administration announced its plans to sell five of the U.S.-made AWACS to Saudi Arabia. The proposal, part of the largest foreign arms sale ever[7] was not received warmly on Capitol Hill where Congressional consent was required. The AWACS proposal was also harshly rejected by Israel and disapproved of by a majority of Americans. Upon formal introduction of the AWACS proposal to Congress in the fall of 1981, many Senators reacted coldly. "This is one of the worst and most dangerous arms sales ever," proclaimed Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy. Senator Donald Riegle said, "We are being asked to submit to a kind of blackmail; the price gouging of oil."[8] These Senators feared that the AWACS sale was not designed to promote stability, as would be claimed by the Administration, but to secure U.S. oil resources. Such a deal would mean technology for oil access, and as Kennedy said, a potentially dangerous deal at that. Senator Bob Packwood, who as a Republican was a member of Reagan’s party, was also a leader of opposition to the AWACS deal in the Senate. Packwood spelled out the danger he saw in arming Saudi Arabia: "They have displayed a hostility that must be interpreted as their deliberate intentions to promote continued instability in the Middle East." Packwood questioned the choice of Saudi Arabia as an arbiter of peace saying, "Let’s think about which nations have been seriously committed to negotiating peace in the Middle East and which have not shared that commitment."[9] With the recently ended American hostage crisis in Iran fresh in mind, Americans were reluctant to sell military equipment to anyone. In fact, a May 1981 poll showed that 52% of those surveyed opposed arms sales to any country, and only 19% wanted the U.S. to sell AWACS to Saudi Arabia.[10]
Considering Israel

Israel, feeling its security directly threatened, was the most strongly opposed to the AWACS deal of anyone involved. Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin expressed "profound regret and unreserved opposition" to the Saudi AWACS proposal.[11] Experts on Israeli defense said that AWACS could track every move of Israel’s air force, denying it the chance to launch a "surprise first strike, the basis of Israeli defense doctrine."[11] While Israel's "unreserved opposition" was based on the real security threat it faced, its "profound regret" could have been rooted in perceived betrayal by the United States. A protector of Israel since the Six-Day War, the U.S. was planning to sell military surveillance planes to Saudi Arabia, a country hostile towards Israel. A Boston Globe editorial from May 4, 1981 recognized this contradiction as well as other threats posed by the AWACS sale, noting, "the intention to sell AWACS planes to Saudi Arabia constitutes not only a manifest contradiction of Reagan's campaign promise to enhance Israel's security, but also serves to further destabilize the Mideast, a region whose stability was supposed to be a strategic priority of the Reagan foreign policy." The sensitivity of Congress to the threats against peace and stability, was matched by its sensitivity to Israel's concerns.

The Reagan Administration actively sought to diminish Israel's voice and influence over the deal. In public speeches, Administration officials admonished Israel for getting involved in a U.S. foreign policy matter. Secretary of State Alexander Haig said the President must be "free of the restraints of overriding external vetoes," and went on to say that were the AWACS deal blocked by Israeli influence, there would be "serious implications on all American policies in the Middle East. ... I'll just leave it there."[8] Reagan himself declared, "It is not the business of other nations to make American foreign policy."[12]

Winning support

In order to gain support for the AWACS deal in Congress and in the country, the Administration lobbied strongly on behalf of it. Though it continually stated the AWACS deal would benefit US "interests" in the Middle East, the Administration also gave promises of the AWACS planes' importance in securing peace. In a speech to Congress, Alexander Haig said that if the AWACS sale was blocked, "our security, the security of Israel and peace itself (might) be endangered,"[13] Reagan himself promoted the AWACS sale saying, "By contributing to the stability of the area, it improves Israeli security."[12] The Administration even commissioned former government officials to speak about AWACS as part of the peace cause. Richard Nixon's Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said "it is essential for the peace process in the Middle East."[14]

Congress approved the AWACS sale, and as part of the then largest arms export ever, the planes were a symbolic commitment to the US/Saudi relationship.

US arms sale to Saudi Arabia, 2010

On October 20, 2010, the US State Department notified Congress of its intention to make the biggest arms sale in American history—an estimated $60.5 billion purchase by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Trumping the former US/Saudi AWACS Sale that took place during the Reagan administration. The package represents a considerable improvement in the offensive capability of the Saudi armed forces. Israel did not raise objections to the sale, except to say that it was "not thrilled about it." At the time, a senior administration official stressed: "This is a big development, because it's part of a larger regional strategy and the maintenance of a strong US presence in the region. We're paying attention to the needs of our allies and what everyone in the region believes is a flexing of muscles by a more aggressive Iran. One way to deal with that is to make our allies and friends strong."[15]
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ISIS – A US-Saudi Chicken Come Home to Roost (Original Post) unhappycamper Feb 2015 OP
Interesting article JimmydaRustler Feb 2015 #1
If you really want to piss yourself off, get a copy of unhappycamper Feb 2015 #2

unhappycamper

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2. If you really want to piss yourself off, get a copy of
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:46 AM
Feb 2015


You can find out about the 'fun' things like offsets, St Ronnie selling AWACS to the Saudis. etc. One of the offsets the US of A has given away is the technology to build cluster bombs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_bombs

Countries that have used cluster munitions

At least seventeen countries have used cluster munitions in recent history (since the creation of the United Nations). All of these nations, except the Netherlands and the United Kingdom, still have stocks of these munitions.[89][90] Countries that have subscribed to the Wellington Declaration, agreeing in principle to ban cluster bombs, are listed in bold.

Colombia[91]
Ethiopia
Eritrea
France
Georgia
Iran
Iraq
Israel
Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Morocco
Netherlands

Nigeria
Russia
Saudi Arabia
South Africa/ South Africa[92]
Sudan
United Kingdom

United States
Sri Lanka[93][94]

Ukraine [95][96](use disputed, claims use by Russia's troops in Ukraine)[97][98][99][100]

In addition, at least three countries that no longer exist (the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Serb Republic of Krajina[12] and Rhodesia) have used cluster bombs.

Countries that have produced cluster munitions

At least 30 nations have produced cluster munitions in recent history (since the creation of the United Nations). All of these nations still have stocks of these munitions.[89] Most (but not all) of them are involved in recent wars or long unsolved international conflicts; however most of them did not use the munitions they produced. Countries that have subscribed to the Wellington Declaration, agreeing in principle to ban cluster bombs, are listed in bold.

Argentina
Brazil
Bulgaria
Chile
People's Republic of China

Republic of China[101]
Egypt
France
Germany

Greece
India
Iran
Iraq
Israel
Italy
Japan

North Korea
South Korea
Pakistan
Poland
Romania
Russia
Serbia
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa
Spain
Sweden - ???

Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

Countries that have stocks of cluster munitions

As of 2008, at least 76 countries have stockpiles of cluster munitions (including all the countries above, that have produced them).[89][102] Countries listed in bold have subscribed to the Wellington Declaration, agreeing in principle that their stockpiles should be destroyed.

Algeria
Angola
Austria
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Belarus
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Brazil
Bulgaria
Chile
China
Colombia[91]
Croatia
Cuba
Czech Republic
Denmark
Ecuador
Egypt
Estonia
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Greece
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Hungary
India
Indonesia
Israel
Italy
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
North Korea
South Korea
Kuwait
Libya
Moldova
Mongolia
Montenegro
Morocco
Netherlands
Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan
Peru
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Serbia
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa[103]
Spain
Sudan
Slovenia[104]
Sweden
Switzerland
Syria
Turkey
Republic of China
Turkmenistan
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United States
Uzbekistan
Yemen
Zimbabwe



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