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Israeli

(4,151 posts)
Sun May 10, 2015, 04:14 AM May 2015

An odyssey from Birthright to the BDS movement

Some young Jews on the Israel excursion program say a rah-rah atmosphere has turned them into harsh critics of the occupation.

By Naomi Darom

Sam Sussman’s tour of Masada started in a pretty standard way. It happened three years ago as part of the Taglit-Birthright program, which offers young Jews free 10-day trips to Israel. At Masada, 50 American students were on hand.
Sussman, a 24-year-old New Yorker, climbed to the top of the plateau and expected the requisite spiritual experience. But what struck him was the guide’s speech when the group reached the top — on the importance of Jewish lives.

According to Sussman, the tour guide said: “I have Italian neighbors I grew up next to, and they’re wonderful, but if I had to decide whether to save their lives or the life of one Jew, I would choose to save the Jew. If I had to decide to save 100 non-Jews or one Jew, I would choose the Jew.”
Sussman was studying political science at the time and went on the trip to learn about the Israeli-Arab conflict. But he says that over the 10-day tour this issue almost never came up. The group didn’t meet one Israeli Arab or Palestinian, and met maybe one or two Israelis who didn’t espouse right-wing views.

Sussman says he was particularly surprised by what he considered matter-of-fact racism. When he asked a guide about the conflict, he was told: “You know, the Arabs have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”
In a gathering with soldiers — a high point of the trip — Sussman talked with a woman soldier about the Palestinians; she spoke mostly about her run-ins with them and about how they allegedly hate Jews. According to Sussman, when he asked if she had ever tried to talk to Arabs, she said: “I don’t understand, are you on the Arabs’ side?”

Birthright, for its part, calls itself an apolitical organization that’s neither right nor left.
After the program, Sussman went on a different trip to the West Bank, where he learned about arrests of children there. The group met a youth who had been arrested.
Sussman says he asked himself a hypothetical question. If the people on the Birthright trip discussed the issue with the Palestinian youth, would they be disturbed about how a country with so many admirable values could make such an arrest?
Sussman thus founded Extend, a program of five-day tours in the West Bank designed to round out the Birthright experience.


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An odyssey from Birthright to the BDS movement (Original Post) Israeli May 2015 OP
Meet " Extend " ..... Israeli May 2015 #1
Thank you libodem May 2015 #2
Met maybe one or two Israelis who didn't espouse right winged views...how shocking. K&R Jefferson23 May 2015 #3
you support the BDS effort? Mosby May 2015 #4
"Damaging the Israeli economy is OK with you?" R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #5
Not everyone claiming to be where they come from really is where they actually live or come from. King_David May 2015 #6
Again King_David May 2015 #7

Israeli

(4,151 posts)
1. Meet " Extend " .....
Sun May 10, 2015, 04:19 AM
May 2015
http://extendtours.org/our-mission/

Why We Do It

The purpose for offering the tours is simple: Every year tens of thousands of young American Jews visit Israel, and only the smallest percentage of them have the opportunity to visit the West Bank. Extend offers young Jewish Americans the opportunity to meet with Palestinian families whose lives have steadily altered to accommodate the occupation, Israeli soldiers who led raids and served at checkpoints, and settlers who have decided, for myriad reasons, to call the West Bank home. By introducing American Jews to voices that rarely make it into the dialogue, Extend offers a unique educational opportunity that empowers young people to constructively engage with the conflict.

Our Vision

We believe that young Jewish Americans need to see and learn about the complexity of this conflict if they are to play a role in ending it. Extend's goal is to enable American Jews to take an active and vocal role in the process of conflict resolution.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
4. you support the BDS effort?
Tue May 12, 2015, 09:43 PM
May 2015

Last edited Tue May 12, 2015, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Damaging the Israeli economy is OK with you? What if it means losing free dental/health care, still OK? What if you or your children lose their jobs, still OK? Where are you and your kids going to go when you lose your ability to support yourself? Do you have some sort of back up plan?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. "Damaging the Israeli economy is OK with you?"
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:51 PM
May 2015

But I thought the narrative was that BDS wasn't even a blip on the radar...?


Israel is damaging its own reputation, and it's time for apartheid to end.


BDS.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
6. Not everyone claiming to be where they come from really is where they actually live or come from.
Tue May 12, 2015, 11:15 PM
May 2015

Especially on the Internet.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. Again
Wed May 13, 2015, 07:04 PM
May 2015

It's very creepy that your sig line includes my name in it

Are you stalking me or are you outwitted in argument or is it as has been suggested many times before , that you do not engage in conversation with Gay , homosexual people?

It's creepy thing you mention my name in your sig line.

It's also very immature. And a bully tactic too...( won't work either )

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