Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumMichael Oren, the problem isn't U.S. critique of Israeli policies – it's Israeli policies
Perhaps at some points in history, great powers have defined relations this way with dependent client states. Never in history has the junior partner in an alliance demanded such control over the words and actions of its more powerful partner.
The strength of the U.S.-Israel relationship should derive not from an American demonstration of public and uncritical fealty to Israeli policy, but from the two countries working together to advance a core set of shared interests and values that the alliance reinforces and on which it rests.
There is growing tension between the United States and Israel not because of Obamas public disagreement with the policies of the Netanyahu government but because those policies are leading Israel down a path that runs counter to the interests and values of the United States, as well as to Israel's own long-term interests, to say nothing of the values on which the country was founded.
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.661674
Oren's Op-Ed bellyflopped, being overshadowed by Donald Trump and the travails of the Spokane, WA NAACP head. It was more revealing about the author than the subject.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Obama..he should not push Israel, blah blah blah. Oren makes abundantly clear the
Palestinians don't have a chance and shouldn't.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)conspiracy theory of Jews controlling the media--that self-loathing Jews who edit The New Republic, NY Times, etc drive media coverage by publishing articles criticial of Israel. He goes so far as to pretty much say that people criticize Netanyahu because of anti-Jewish bigotry.
He includes in his roll-call of self loathing Jews . . . Thomas Friedman and Leon Wieseltier. Because they write like Americans instead of like Likud party members from West Jerusalem.
He's insane.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.661505
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Let's see who will defend him, and I don't mean here on DU.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)From his piece:
"Israels former ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, claims that Jewish journalists are largely responsible for American medias anti-Israel coverage and the double standard it applies in its coverage of the Jewish state."
And also:
"Oren says that he was particularly pained by articles critical of Israel in which the bylines were Jewish. Pondering what could drive Jews to nitpick at what he describes as their own nation-state, Oren claims that some saw assailing Israel as a career enhancer the equivalent of Jewish man bites Jewish dog that saved several struggling pundits from obscurity.
My take:
Apparently Oren feels that Israel is subject to a "double standard". Israel, by its actions, has held itself above International Law since its inception, and that intensified after the 1967 War and the massive Israeli land theft of Palestinian, Egyptian, and Syrian land. If there is any double standard it is that Israel is allowed to commit violations, such as land theft and aggression, that Iraq was punished severely for.
And then he uses the term "nitpick" when describing attacks against civilians, theft of land and resources, constructing an illegal wall to protect the illegal settlements, and other violations of International Law far too numerous to list here. About what I would expect from a former government official who was paid to cover up and deflect criticism of Israeli government crimes.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He gave up his US citizenship that year.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Source: The Wall Street Journal June 16, 2015
Netanyahu and the president both made mistakes, but only one purposely damaged U.S.-Israel relations.
Nobody has a monopoly on making mistakes. When I was Israels ambassador to the United States from 2009 to the end of 2013, that was my standard response to reporters asking who bore the greatest responsibilityPresident Barack Obama or Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahufor the crisis in U.S.-Israel relations.
I never felt like I was lying when I said it. But, in truth, while neither leader monopolized mistakes, only one leader made them deliberately.
Israel blundered in how it announced the expansion of Jewish neighborhoods and communities in Jerusalem over the border lines that existed before the Six Day War in 1967. On two occasions, the news came out during Mr. Netanyahus meetings with Vice President Joe Biden. A solid friend of Israel, Mr. Biden understandably took offense. Even when the White House stood by Israel, blocking hostile resolutions in the United Nations, settlement expansion often continued.
Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-obama-abandoned-israel-1434409772
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)I surely don't remember things happening the way he describes them. All the events described were Netanyahu's fault.