Last edited Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)

I wonder how the Xios will fight BDS on campus: door knocks, rubber tipped bullets, bulldozing dorm rooms, forced exile to another campus?

In all seriousness, the fact of the matter is that some ratf@ck Hagee RW Xtian group shilling for the apartheid while state trying to reach college students with their fakery is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig

I'm sure there are better analogies. Perhaps shira can give you a few once she returns.

at least the ones that aren't already on the same page anyway

about that last item I didn't know that

as is the case with Mr Brog.

Perhaps I should start my own group: Jews United for Palestine. I'm not Jewish, of course, but that seems to be no impediment.

You let your mask slip.

Again.

As to the singing pig:

You can see the original post with the right wing style insult.

Skinner and Lithos have both been notified.

Not the first time either.

I rarely look at the edit history because my own edits are generally to correct typographical errors. I agree that the wording is a poor choice, but I would not alert on it myself. I have been called names a few times here, but I feel that name calling detracts from any argument made. Sometimes people can allow their passion for an issue to override manners.

Sometimes people look too much for underlying meaning.

I was responding to the part about not trying to teach a pig to sing. (Not being a perfect physical specimen myself, I do not make comments about appearance. )

Are we clear on the pig video?

At least, on the typical American QWERTY keyboard.

To read more about Hagee:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/people/john-hagee


As to the group,
"CUFI’s founder and leader, evangelical pastor John Hagee, has expressed support for Jewish settlements in the West Bank and has argued against the division of the Holy Land in order to create a two-state solution. In a Forward op-ed, however, Hagee made clear that regardless of his personal opinion, CUFI “will never oppose Israeli efforts to advance peace.”

Now all the world needs is for Israel to actually move toward peace. The world has been waiting since 1948. And will probably continue to wait. And wait.

In 1948, the West Bank was occupied by Jordan and Gaza was occupied by Egypt.

Israel wasn't occupying any territory.

Palestinians by the European colonialists and given to the Jews for a homeland.

and much of the Middle East and Africa, for that matter, is that territory was divided by European colonialists without any regard for tribal and ethnic divisions.

I also do not believe that any country has the right to unilaterally decide to give away territory to a third party. In the case of Israel, Britain and France had no right to divide up Palestine.

(I also believe that the US had no right to seize Hawaii from the indigenous inhabitants but that is another topic.)

The British terminated their mandate to govern the territory (and abstained on the resolution).

After the UN resolution was adopted, a civil war began - the Partition Plan was never implemented.

The state of Israel was declared in May, 1948, when the British Mandate expired and British forces began to withdraw.

Shortly thereafter, several neighboring Arab states intervened militarily.

Incidentally, UN Resolution 181 is frequently cited as the basis in international law for Palestinian statehood.

Can you clarify if it is your belief that all of present-day Israel is actually occupied Palestinian territory?

territory that was not theirs to divide, and the problems associated with that division.

Do you disagree with my contention?

And we've been over this a few times, with documentation. Assuming you are just very forgetful, here's a reminder.

“MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/documents/newPDF/49.pdf

Question (a): Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947?

"In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed."

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/B4085A930E0529C98025649D00410973