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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:52 PM Aug 2015

PM: Israel not opposed to a civilian nuke program for Iran

Oh?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-israel-not-opposed-to-a-civilian-nuke-program-for-iran/

The prime minister was apparently responding to comments Friday by US President Barack Obama, who suggested critics of the Iran deal were against the Islamic Republic having any sort of nuclear program, “even a peaceful one.”

“Let me make clear, Matteo, that Israel doesn’t oppose a civilian nuclear program in Iran. We oppose a military nuclear program in Iran,” Netanyahu said during an official visit to Italy. “And regrettably, the deal with Iran allows it to keep and expand a formidable nuclear infrastructure that is completely unnecessary for civilian nuclear purposes, but is entirely necessary for the production of nuclear weapons.”


If Iran is this apocalyptic death cult suicide state, well then no nuke program would ever be acceptable.

Remember Netanyahu's March speech?

He said any agreement that stops short of completely dismantling Iran’s nuclear program—which Tehran has said is for peaceful purposes—would be ineffective.
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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. "apocalyptic death cult suicide state" ??
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:04 PM
Aug 2015

No one thinks of Iran this way.

Just a state that supports terrorist groups, particularly ones bent on attacking Israel.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. They do when dismissing the value of deterrence.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:06 PM
Aug 2015

The thinking goes that Iran will nuke Tel Aviv even if it means Tehran gets obliterated by an Israeli nuke.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
10. CNN 2001: Iran's Rafsanjani promotes nuclear war vs. Israel
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:12 AM
Aug 2015
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-742815

RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL
http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm

TEHRAN 14 Dec. (IPS) One of Iran’s most influential ruling cleric called Friday on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring them that while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them "damages only".

[font color = "red"]"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world"[/font], Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in Tehran.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
3. They oppose all nuke anything in Iran
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:11 PM
Aug 2015

While sitting on a significant stockpile themselves. Which makes me nervous.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
4. He's been consistent on this, the contention has always been over enrichment.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:39 PM
Aug 2015

Your second excerpt is flat out wrong, a lie and a mischaracterization. And it's not in the article you linked to.

Here's the transcript of the March speech:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/03/03/full-text-netanyahus-address-to-congress/


 

shira

(30,109 posts)
6. Show me where Bibi contradicts himself on this statement...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:33 AM
Aug 2015

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He's a dipshit rightwing politician who lies like all other politicians, but where's the proof of this lie in particular?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
7. I don't remember him mentioning anything about acceptable levels of nuclear programs, only threats.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:15 AM
Aug 2015

It seems as if he even actually tried to bomb Iran a few times but was stopped by his colleagues. If the level of nuclear activity is of no concern for the IAEA and the P5+1, why should it be even remotely Israel's concern? Israel is a nuclear rogue and the only country with nuclear weapons in the Middle-East. Israel should very explicitly be prevented from dictating the terms for other countries that abide by the rules of the IAEA

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. So you have no evidence Bibi lied. As to your other points...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:04 AM
Aug 2015
If the level of nuclear activity is of no concern for the IAEA and the P5+1, why should it be even remotely Israel's concern?


It's a concern to Israel because Iran constantly threatens to annihilate Israel. Iran has been supporting Hamas & Hezbollah attacks on Israeli civilians for years. The question is why Israel should NOT take Iran seriously. See post #10 above.

Israel is a nuclear rogue and the only country with nuclear weapons in the Middle-East. Israel should very explicitly be prevented from dictating the terms for other countries that abide by the rules of the IAEA


A rogue?

Israel only has nukes to prevent another Holocaust from occurring & will use them only as a desperate last resort, unlike Iran which has proven to be the #1 exporter of terror worldwide.

Israel's Sunni neighbors aren't scared in the least about Israeli nukes, but they're scared shitless by the thought of Shiite Iran's nukes. Which goes to show Israel is no threat; Iran is.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
11. For me, any country with nuclear weapons outside of the boundaries of the NPT is a nuclear rogue.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 10:34 AM
Aug 2015

Netanyahu isn't really interested in peaceful solutions, that's why the pigeons of peace are crapping on his head. If you believe that Netanyahu's past actions are proof of his acceptance of a peaceful nuclear program within the boundaries of the NPT, that's up to you.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
12. You claimed Bibi lied, with no evidence proving it...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:05 PM
Aug 2015

Just pointing that out.

It's okay to acknowledge you're wrong.

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