Also, the author is completely clueless about the reason why what is happening now is happening.

The current wave of violence is a direct result of the perceived "desecration" of the Al Aqsa Mosque by Jews and the false belief that Israel is planning to destroy it.

Has nothing to do with what the Israel haters claim.

and a spark to ignite the whole thing.

The living conditions of the Arabs of East Jerusalem are intolerable, and the Israeli push to change the status quo on the Temple Mount is the spark.

Usually, hopefully, in the case of other riots in other cities, authorities recognize the intolerable living conditions as the underlying cause and try to address it. This means that a few years after the riots, things would be better and people would have hope instead of no hope. That would mean that there won't be any more rioting, ever.

Unfortunately in the case of East Jerusalem, I seriously doubt that Israel will do anything to address the cause of the rioting, and in a few years time, conditions will remain as intolerable as they were before the riots. All that's needed is just another spark, and then there's another riot.

It has nothing to do with occupation, settlements, or anything rational.

If you don't know that, you know zip about the Arab/Israel conflict.

years ago, when they have very real reasons to do so because of their situation right now.

Frankly, I think that the current rioting is totally unrelated to what happened before, and only related to the currently intolerable living conditions for Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. You're just trying to divert from the actual causes for these riots.

What do you think were the motivations behind killing Jews for descrating al-Aqsa decades before 1948?

Watch Lucy Aharish here. She's an Israeli Arab Reporter...

Here's an example of their posting style:

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those who suffer the most from it.

Terrorists and freedom fighters of all denominations can come from the ranks of the privileged, like Che Guevara for example.

The problem with East Jerusalem for example, is that there are a lack of schools, lack of housing, no jobs, no political participation, in short people in East Jerusalem are disenfranchised, and every year it gets a little bit worse. The world has been trying to warn Israel that it's a really bad idea to Judaize Jerusalem, and every time there are evictions of Arabs and announcements of new Jewish housing there have been strong condemnations.

My fear is that the current government will use these riots as an excuse to make the situation worse instead of trying to address any actual underlying causes.

Yes, the situation in the Arab neighbourhoods of Jerusalem is not as good as it should be, and not up to the standard of most - not all - the Jewish neighbourhoods.

If the residents want a better standard of living they can write to the City Council, they can organize letter-writing campaigns, even demonstrations. But there is no excuse for picking up knives and go around stabbing civilians.

What did they think would happen after such a terror spree? That the Israeli government would make things easier for them? Of course they are going to close off the Arab neighbourhoods to prevent terrorists from getting out.

In any event, not one terrorist has expressed his desire for better living standards. Every one of them is repeating the lie about the Jews desecrating the Temple Mount.

And please, don't try to glorify those terrorists with the mantle of Che Guevara or any other leftist hero. They are Jew haters with a blood thirst encouraged by the incitement that has been drip-fed into them since birth.

As for Judaizing Jerusalem, LMAO!!!

How can Jerusalem be Judaized any more than the Vatican can be Catholicized?

Jerusalem has been a Jewish city since time immemorial. It never was a Palestinian city. It was ignored, and was a dusty backwater until the Jews returned and transformed it into a bustling city.

There is not one mention of Jerusalem in the Koran, as you well know, whereas it is mentioned around 700 times in the Hebrew Bible. The Muslims turn their backs to Jerusalem and pray towards Mecca. The Jews pray towards Jerusalem.

These claims of "Judaization" are yet another way to belittle Judaism and to deny and decry any Jewish connection to Jerusalem.

And of course they are yet another rallying cry for the terrorists.

I have argued for what I believe is the cause of this situation in Jerusalem, and you have argued for what you think is the cause for it.

I don't think I need to go any further with this.

sounds right out of Hebron to me, it seems you belittle the connection of any other religion to Jerusalem

henank (798 posts)
15. "Judaize Jerusalem"? LOL!

Yes, the situation in the Arab neighbourhoods of Jerusalem is not as good as it should be, and not up to the standard of most - not all - the Jewish neighbourhoods.

If the residents want a better standard of living they can write to the City Council, they can organize letter-writing campaigns, even demonstrations. But there is no excuse for picking up knives and go around stabbing civilians.

What did they think would happen after such a terror spree? That the Israeli government would make things easier for them? Of course they are going to close off the Arab neighbourhoods to prevent terrorists from getting out.

In any event, not one terrorist has expressed his desire for better living standards. Every one of them is repeating the lie about the Jews desecrating the Temple Mount.

And please, don't try to glorify those terrorists with the mantle of Che Guevara or any other leftist hero. They are Jew haters with a blood thirst encouraged by the incitement that has been drip-fed into them since birth.

As for Judaizing Jerusalem, LMAO!!!

How can Jerusalem be Judaized any more than the Vatican can be Catholicized?

Jerusalem has been a Jewish city since time immemorial. It never was a Palestinian city. It was ignored, and was a dusty backwater until the Jews returned and transformed it into a bustling city.

There is not one mention of Jerusalem in the Koran, as you well know, whereas it is mentioned around 700 times in the Hebrew Bible. The Muslims turn their backs to Jerusalem and pray towards Mecca. The Jews pray towards Jerusalem.

These claims of "Judaization" are yet another way to belittle Judaism and to deny and decry any Jewish connection to Jerusalem.

And of course they are yet another rallying cry for the terrorists.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134115308#post15

Clearly you think some posts are so good that they need to be posted twice ?

The terrorist who rammed his car into a bus stop at Armon Hanatziv in Jerusalem on Tuesday and then got out and hacked to death a Rabbi plus injured several others, was employed at Bezeq, Israel's main telecom company. He had a company car - which he outrageously used to carry out the murder.

he had a good job, a good salary and a company car. But somehow life was "intolerable" for him so he had to go out and kill Jews.

Yeah. Sure. I'm sure we all understand his motivations.

from a source that uses hasbara as if that is legitimate concern and wont even condemn dead Israeli children? Anyone who thinks those who strongly support Israel and express that support are being paid to do it is too much of a joke to be taken seriously. With the strong support here in the US, Israel must be paying a fucking fortune. My check must have gotten lost in the mail.

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and I'm thankful I didn't see such a repulsive piece of crap post that should embarrass anyone who calls themselves a progressive. Wish I could say I was surprised but I'm in agreement with the poster that pointed out that posts like that just make my support for Israel even stronger (may have been you).

Edited to add: yup - poster I strongly agree with is you.