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shira

(30,109 posts)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 06:38 AM Oct 2015

UN Watch names UNRWA employees inciting hatred

Nice how the UN has a hand in inciting the current hatred & violence in Jerusalem against innocents.

Palestinian employees of the UN agency UNRWA are inciting Palestinians to commit terror attacks against Israelis from social media accounts on which they are explicitly identified as workers of the United Nations, according to a report by UN Watch published today.

Hillel Neuer, head of the NGO which monitors the UN and its agencies, says the report was submitted to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, to UNRWA chief Pierre Krähenbühl and to US Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power. The US, according to UN Watch is the largest funder of UNRWA with $400 million annually.

In the report, Neuer names nine UNRWA employees and brings screenshots of jingoistic, inciting posts from their Facebook pages that call for the murder of Jews or at other times push conspiracy theories according to which terrorists killed by Israeli security forces were innocent.

The report can be read here.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-watch-names-unrwa-employees-inciting-hatred/
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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
2. It seems as if the goal isn't to combat incitement within UNRWA, it's actually to discredit UNRWA
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:57 AM
Oct 2015

itself.

I don't trust UN Watch.

However, does it mean that all the Facebook posts are bogus? Unfortunately, they seem to be genuine, but I would like to have confirmation from a better source.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. So what should be done about this incitement? Nothing?
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 05:38 PM
Oct 2015

You acknowledge the Facebook posts are genuine, so why aren't your "trusty and reliable" sources interested in doing something about this hate & incitement?

I need to give you Kudos for acknowledging the obvious hatred by UN representatives on their Facebook pages. Usually it's denied in these parts. Why do you think good folks would deny this?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
4. I have a problem with a bunch of amateur clowns pretending to be a serious organization
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:45 PM
Oct 2015

investigating hate crime.

That's actually the whole of my objection, and it would be better if a serious NGO investigated instead.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
6. I can think of at least two reasons:
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 07:28 AM
Oct 2015

1. people post the damnedest things on Facebook, and seem to be clueless to the fact that other people will actually read their posts.

2. These people are full of hate, and they think it's cool to manifest that hate with pictures of knives that they can share with their like-minded friends.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
7. So good NGO's should still report all this hate incitement...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 07:51 AM
Oct 2015

...from UN paid workers in the Palestinian territories, correct?

Yet, they're not.

You think it's an insignificant little problem not worth addressing?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
8. I'm not sure what to make of it.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:33 AM
Oct 2015

The attitudes displayed on Facebook probably reflect pre-existing attitudes, and not an increase. I'm a softie, so I think education is the key to improvement. I really don't like racists, but hating them won't stop them.

I'm not sure what to do about it, but something ought to be done. Not by UN Watch, but someone else.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
9. Here's my take...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:20 PM
Oct 2015

What you see on the Facebook of a lot of UN employees is real and it's a huge problem, but folks fear criticizing the UN, especially when it comes to I/P. Makes them appear like rightwing, anti-Palestinian, Zionist stooge racists. Better to go with the flow. Why?

Here's why....because to harshly criticize these Hamas employees (or Hamas itself) is to risk getting kicked out of Gaza - something journalists don't want or NGO's that are there. The UN doesn't want to condemn Hamas either, or else risk getting their employees in Gaza kidnapped, kneecapped, or killed. Besides, the UN really doesn't give a shit. After all, they have Saudi Arabia heading their Human Rights council.

So whether it's UN employees, NGO's, or Journalists....this UNRWA hatred against Jews must be kept under wraps. There's too much invested in Gaza (and the Palestinian territories) to be on the outside looking in - or worse, to risk your employees' lives. Reporting on Palestine and Israel is also big money these days. Plus, many people in the UN, in NGO's, and Media support the Palestinian cause (Hamas too) and feel no need to condemn UNRWA hate. It simply doesn't bother them that much (because they're racists themselves).


Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
10. I can't really see a conspiracy here.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:56 AM
Oct 2015

Perhaps there could be stricter standards against incitement, but they must be of a general nature, as one sort of incitement shouldn't be targeted at the expense of others. However, to enforce stricter standards and educate against incitement, more resources will be needed.

So perhaps the solution is to provide the UNRWA with the tools and funds it needs to stop this hateful crap.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
13. You're not looking hard enough. This just happened hours ago...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:13 AM
Oct 2015
Corbyn appoints terror apologist to top advisory post
http://www.timesofisrael.com/corbyn-appoints-terror-apologist-to-top-advisory-post/

UK Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has appointed controversial figure Seumas Milne as his director of strategy & communications, the Telegraph reported. Milne has in the past praised the “resistance” against British troops in Iraq and has justified terror attacks against Israel.

Milne, a regular contributor to the Guardian newspaper, wrote in a 2004 article that Iraqi terrorists were the country’s true liberators and called their attacks a “resistance war.” During an anti-Israel rally in 2014, he said Israel had no right to defend itself from Gaza terrorism, claiming the state continued to occupy the Palestinian territory. “It isn’t terrorism to fight back,” he said of attacks from Hamas against Israel. “The terrorism is the killing of citizens by Israel on an industrial scale.”


It isn't conspiracy theory if it's true.

So there's all this support for terror (against Jews) not only at Amnesty International and in the UN, but also within the media and upper political echelons. These groups of people care FAR more about Israel's response to the latest terror within Jerusalem than they do the Jews attacked and killed by those terrorists. Would you actually deny that? It's as if they equate cops to robbers. Robbers shoot, cops shoot back at robbers and all of a sudden the cops are as bad as the robbers. It's madness because the Israeli response is perceived as being just as bad as terrorist attacks. Actually worse.

I think Jewish lives matter & terrorists deserve what they get, especially while in the act. Those who do not support the human rights of everyone (Jewish lives matter) support the human rights of NO ONE. Do you agree?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
12. Hani Al Ramahi has 572 followers, so I guess he's a popular guy in some circles...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:26 AM
Oct 2015

Bleh.

However, I do have a problem with UN Watch using Elder of Ziyon as a source. I prefer less blemished sources without agendas.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
14. The UNRWA Road to Terror: Palestinian Classroom Incitement
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:24 AM
May 2016

This video will be screened at selected legislative bodies which fund UNRWA.

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