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Related: About this forumUNRWA employees suspended for inciting violence against Israelis on Facebook
The suspensions came UN Watch published a report giving 10 specific examples of UNWRA employees calling for violence publicly on Facebook.
UNRWA spokseman Chris Gunness recently railed out against UN Watch's allegations, claiming they were making "baseless allegations about anti-semitism" and appealed to journalists to ignore the report.
However, now Gunness's fears seem to have come true as UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon on Thursday announced that the UNRWA staff members inciting anti-Semitic and anti-Israel violence on Facebook "have been subject to both remedial and disciplinary action, including suspension and loss of pay."
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/UN-suspends-UNWRA-employees-for-inciting-violence-against-Israelis-on-Facebook-429896
iandhr
(6,852 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)At least they rounded up the usual suspects.
shira
(30,109 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)belong to the disfavored ethnic group.
Obviously not acceptable for people taking a check from the UN to wallow in bigotry and incitement.
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)Many US officials had little nice to say about the Japanese during WWII (and vice-versa). That's hardly a surprise in a deadly conflict.
The difference is that the UN's role isn't supposed to be adversarial. They certainly aren't supposed to be cheerleading the insane behaviors that cause so many of the refugee problems in the first place.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)FBaggins
(26,731 posts)You're clearly not supporting their human development if you're telling them to commit terrorist acts.
Surely there exist enough locals with some semblance of sanity to staff the agency? If not... there's little point it pursuing peace.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:57 AM - Edit history (1)
You think it's so bad for Palestinians, it's no wonder this is happening?
In the real world there's FAR worse happening to millions of people. Victims being constantly butchered (think Syria), raped (Darfur), and sold as slaves elsewhere (Mauritania) who'd love to be as oppressed as the Palestinians are by Israel. And yet, we don't see those millions of victims attacking & killing random innocent people - calling for genocide of an entire race or ethnicity. We certainly don't see good people giving victims elsewhere justification for attacking innocents. Or understanding how desperate these other millions of victims are so that they have little choice but to murder random people.
Your remark in #9 actually incites more violence against innocents. Think about it.
It's also racist. As if Palestinians - of all people on the planet - cannot help but be murderers of innocents. That's the racism of low expectations.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)2300 dead Gazans should have been told
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)I'm saying that if the UN can't find anyone able to do the job without fomenting terrorism, then the only "peace" to be found is on the other side of war.
2300 dead Gazans should have been told
They were told. Over and over and over again. They listened to Hamas instead.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)FBaggins
11. Well... it's everyone's job to purse peace. But that wasn't the point
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I'm saying that if the UN can't find anyone able to do the job without fomenting terrorism, then the only "peace" to be found is on the other side of war.
2300 dead Gazans should have been told
They were told. Over and over and over again. They listened to Hamas instead.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134116196#post11
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)does that mean the alert failed?
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)FBaggins
(26,731 posts)That would be Hamas.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)sounds like victim blaming to me
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)Hamas is not the victim.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)how pray tell does Hamas listen to itself?
FBaggins
11. Well... it's everyone's job to purse peace. But that wasn't the point
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I'm saying that if the UN can't find anyone able to do the job without fomenting terrorism, then the only "peace" to be found is on the other side of war.
2300 dead Gazans should have been told
They were told. Over and over and over again. They listened to Hamas instead.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134116196#post11
shira
(30,109 posts)....are being treated unfairly.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)They're specifically calling for the murder of Jews.
You think they're being treated unfairly, right? Are they victims in your view?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)They're not victims and they're not being treated unfairly.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)your use of Jews and Israeli interchangeably is a a tactic meant to incite IMO
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Stay focused.
Here's video of incitement to kill Jews:
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.679435
Doesn't look like incitement to kill "Israelis".
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)YouTube Removes Inciting Videos Portraying Murder of Jews, at Israel's Request
Hamas uploaded one video dramatizing stabbing death of two Jews, while cartoon reenacted murder of Eitam and Naama Henkin in West Bank.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.679435
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)or mother or father in last years exercise in Israel 'defending' itself?
shira
(30,109 posts)....to kill random innocent Palestinians in retaliation?
They also lose children, wives, husbands sisters, brothers, mothers, and fathers.
shira
(30,109 posts)Good try.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)it should be taken to heart or seriously
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)the essay was not her original work but she posted it, agreeing with it and promoting it
shira
(30,109 posts)And posting an article doesn't mean you agree with everything in it.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)spun themselves dizzy trying to us this purple is really yellow
No operation, no rolling, and low intensity and controlled escalation, rather than destroying the terrorist infrastructure, and Israeli targeted killings. Enough to Dim up the names. This is a war. Words have meaning. This is a war. Rather than counter-terrorism and war on extremists, and not even a war against the Palestinian Authority. Both these forms of evasion from reality. This is a war between the two Nations. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? You ask him, he started.
I don't know why is it so hard for us to set the simple words in the language to put at our disposal. Why do we have to invent every two weeks a new name for this war, and not to call her by name. What's so shocking in understanding that all the Palestinian people is the enemy. All war is between two peoples and the people who launched war on war, in its entirety, is the enemy. Declaration of war is not a war crime. Certainly not a war. Rather than using the word "war" and a clear definition of the enemy. Vice versa. Morality of war (and this) is based on the assumption that the world wars, and war is not normal, and usually fights with the enemy who disobeys the orders of his elders and pay its way, and its fruit, and tshtiotav property.
And morality of war know it is impossible not to harm the citizens of the enemy. He condemns the British air force bombed and destroyed completely the German Dresden and u.s. jets destroyed the cities of Poland and ravaged half of Budapest residents, miserable places that never were bad for America, but had to destroy them in order to win the war against evil. Morality of war don't read prosecute Russia explosion and destroys the towns and neighborhoods in Chile. He denounced the peace forces or killed hundreds of civilians in Angola, and the NATO bombing of Belgrade, Milosevic's City million Iranians, old men and women and infant children. The war has to be correct in principle, not just politically, what did America in Afghanistan, including bombs of populated localities, including the creation of refugees of hundreds of thousands of people who fled the fighting, and thousands of them left home to return to.
And it's true that our battle is that enemy soldiers are hiding within the population, and only because of the support they can fight. Behind a dozen men and women, standing, without which he could not have been too bad. Participants in the programs in mosques, authors of the murderous plans, sponsors, suppliers, car shelter, and give due respect and support morlit. All the enemy fighters and bleeding in the head. It's also the mothers of the martyrs, that send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They need to follow them, there's nothing in it. They need to go, and the physical House which they raised the snake. Other small snakes grow more.
But the week's festivities and respect both houses of two murderers vile. I guess they where mourning tents, and the city come to pay my respects to my mom and dad raised the devil. The two houses need to bomb from the air, to destroy and to kill. And we have to explain that from now on every home of a martyr. There is nothing right and probably not even that useful. Each bomber should have known he was taking with him both his parents and his home and neighbors. All UM Jihad hero that sends her son to hell needs to know that she's going with him. Along with the House and all that.
The list cannot be focused. That's war. What is thwart focused preventive and unfocused. We opened this naughty war we could not finish it. The key to a ceasefire in the hands of the Palestinian people. We can only burn their fingers until you want to use them. " (Translated by Bing)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5269479
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)so you adjust the goal posts to genocide quite a difference
shira (26,501 posts)
14. There is no one in the Cabinet calling for or cheering on death to Arabs.
Good try.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=116257
now I am done you're welcome to the last word here
shira
(30,109 posts)Let's start with my July 1 Facebook post. It was written some 12 years ago, but never published, by a dear man, the recently departed journalist Uri Elitzur. The gist of his article was that once one side in a war attacks the other side's civilians, they can no longer morally claim a special status for their own civilians.
Go ahead, ask a Hebrew speaking friend to translate it for you, they'll confirm this is what my Facebook post was about. But you'll find not a trace of that in Resnick's account. Perhaps it's his own ignorance of the Hebrew language. After all, he got the text from Electronic Intifada, a website dedicated to daily and hourly vilification of my country.
All Resnick had to do to make Elitzur's sober, legally minded discussion sound like a speech made by Hitler himself, was to cherry pick words out of context. A call for the indiscriminate killing of children is a terrible thing. But what if the statement was that any time you kill our children, you're exposing your own children to the same fate? Still unsettling, but rational when you consider that they purposely use their kids as human shields. It's not a call for indiscriminate murder.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Exposing-militant-leftist-propaganda-363062