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Related: About this forumFormer Netanyahu Aide Calls U.S. Ambassador to Israel 'Jew Boy'
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.698358On a Tuesday morning political panel show, on Israels Channel 2, commentator Aviv Bushinsky reacted to remarks Shapiro made in his speech to the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS) conference. Shapiro said "too much Israeli vigilantism in the West Bank goes on unchecked," adding that "there is a lack of thorough investigations at times it seems Israel has two standards of adherence to rule of law in the West Bank - one for Israelis and one for Palestinians."
After viewing a clip of Shapiros remarks, Bushinsky declared, To put it bluntly, it was a statement typical of a little Jew boy (Yehudon).
When his fellow panelists protested that Shapiro was merely expressing the position of the United States, Bushinsky responded, Nobody was standing there with a hammer forcing him to say it. Hes his own person I see a Jew, Dan Shapiro, saying this. I see it as a pattern - it was the same thing with [former U.S. Middle East Envoy] Dennis Ross and now with [former U.S. Ambassador to Israel] Martin Indyk saying his nonsense. It's the behavior of Jews who are trying to show that they are extra left-wing, more liberal and more balanced."
The U.S. Embassy spokesman declined to comment on Shapiro's behalf on Tuesday.
Bushinsky served as media advisor for Netanyahu during his first term as Prime Minister in 1998 and 1999, advised him between political roles, and served as his chief of staff in 2003-2004 when Netanyahu was Finance Minister in Ariel Sharons government.
Israel's rightwing is full of charmers.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's the way he is using the slur here.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)But yes, there is some similarity there, I think.
In any case, an ugly remark.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Another right wing site that feels the same way about American Jews.
( Weiss as well as Bushinski are Jews bigoted against American Jews)
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's way beyond anything this guy has said.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Similar to how some people get upset and angry when hearing Arabic.
Nothing racist or bigoted there, right?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Well?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)unable
shira
(30,109 posts)Now tell me nothing's wrong with assholes who get upset and angry hearing Arabic.
Go on now...
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I Googled the article by title, it would not load either from your link nor from the Google entry, I tried Googling the quotes individually and got nothing at least 3 pages out,
if the article becomes available I'll be able to reply more fully
shira
(30,109 posts)If someone were to say that about hearing Arabic, would that be considered bigotry?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)now please give us some verifiable links about Weiss supposedly saying he reviled Hebrew, why do you choose to give us give us dead links?
on investigating sadredearth which seems either dead or off line, it seems that it's attempting to create ties between the Native Americans and Israel-thankfully the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association is not fooled by such shenanigans as they are being monitored by AMCHA
Native American and Indigenous Studies Association:
NAISA Declaration of Support for the Boycott of Israeli Academic Institutions (Council of the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association in December 2013)
NAISA National Council + EMAILS
http://www.amchainitiative.org/academic-associations-endorsing-academic-boycott-of-israel/
shira
(30,109 posts)He's written far worse shit that you've seen for yourself, and ignored.
As for Native American, Jewish connections - I have inlaws who are Canadian Native American. They're the first to say Jews are as indigenous to Israel as Natives are to North America.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and kudo's on in-laws where did they get their info from?
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shira
(30,109 posts)Israel is the world's first modern indigenous state. Those who are arguing for Palestinian indigenous rights are usually those who have little grasp of the history, and no understanding of the truth behind indigenous rights.
I am Métis from the Paddle Prairie Metis settlement in Northern Alberta Canada. I founded Canadians For Accountability, a native rights advocacy group, and I am an organizer and participant in the Idle No More movement in Calgary. I am a founding member of an Israeli advocacy group called Calgary United with Israel. And I am a Zionist.
Indigenous status
To begin, let us acknowledge that there is no rule that a land can have only one indigenous people; it is not a zero sum game in which one group must be considered indigenous so that therefore another is not. However, there is a very clear guideline to being an indigenous people. It is somewhat complex but can be boiled down to the checklist below, as developed by anthropologist José R. Martínez-Cobo (former special rapporteur of the Sub-commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities for the United Nations).
This list was developed because indigenous rights are beginning to be respected across the planet. This recognition is incredibly important, so we as indigenous people cannot allow non-indigenous people to make false claims, which ultimately would harm our own rights.
Israel is the worlds first modern indigenous state: the creation and declaration of the sovereign nation of Israel marks the first time in history that an indigenous people has managed to regain control of its ancestral lands and build a nation state. As such, this is incredibly important for indigenous people both to recognise and to support as a great example for our peoples to emulate.
The actual working definition of indigenous people, (not the Wikipedia version, nor Merriam Webster, both more suited to plants and animals) for purposes of this essay is that developed by aforementioned anthropologist José R. Martínez-Cobo. With this as my foundation, I will detail why Jews are indigenous to Israel, and why Palestinians are not.
Martinez-Cobos research suggests that indigenous communities, peoples and nations are those which, having a historical continuity with pre-invasion and pre-colonial societies that developed on their territories, consider themselves distinct from other sectors of the societies now prevailing on those territories, or parts of them. They form at present non-dominant sectors of society and are determined to preserve, develop and transmit to future generations their ancestral territories, and their ethnic identity, as the basis of their continued existence as peoples, in accordance with their own cultural patterns, social institutions and legal system.
This historical continuity may consist of the continuation, for an extended period reaching into the present of one or more of the following factors:
Occupation of ancestral lands, or at least of part of them
Common ancestry with the original occupants of these lands
Culture in general, or in specific manifestations (such as religion, living under a tribal system, membership of an indigenous community, dress, means of livelihood, lifestyle, etc.)
Language (whether used as the only language, as mother-tongue, as the habitual means of communication at home or in the family, or as the main, preferred, habitual, general or normal language)
Residence in certain parts of the country, or in certain regions of the world
Religion that places importance on spiritual ties to the ancestral lands
Blood quantum that is, the amount of blood you carry of a specific people to identify as that people. The concept was developed by colonialists in order to eventually breed out native peoples.
Let us now look quickly at the Jews. How do they fit this definition?
cont'd...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/14377#.VqOlDlMrJo4
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)If I have no reason to question the credibility of a writer or source, then I don't see a problem.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)One that chooses to locate itself in the WB settlements?
shira
(30,109 posts)....and sound reasoning.
King_David
(14,851 posts)The only one ....on DU ... A site that directs its bigotry against American Jews... Half this group are targeted by that site.... Because of our ethnicity.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)NT
King_David
(14,851 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)Then, "rude". "condescending", "shallow", and so on.
6chars
(3,967 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)"Israel's rightwing is full of charmers."
Eugene
(61,903 posts)Source: The Guardian
State Department backs Daniel Shapiro after he said Israel applies law in West
Bank differently to Palestinians and Israelis
Peter Beaumont in Jerusalem
Wednesday 20 January 2016 11.20 GMT
The US State Department has moved to back Americas ambassador to Israel in a febrile and escalating row over his remarks on Monday that Israel applied law in the occupied West Bank differently to Palestinians and Israelis.
Ambassador Daniel Shapiros unusually critical comments drew harsh criticism from ministers in Israels rightwing government including from the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu.
Shapiro was also publicly lambasted on Israeli television on Tuesday by a former aide to Netanyahu who used the deeply offensive Hebrew word yehudon which translates as little Jew boy to disparage the ambassador. The term is used by rightwing Israelis against other Jews particularly those in the diaspora whom they regard as not being sufficiently Jewish or pro-Israel.
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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/20/netanyahu-aide-calls-us-ambassador-little-jew-boy-in-escalating-row
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Can't win either way.
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King_David
(14,851 posts)Disgusting !!!
shira
(30,109 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)He just arrived at DU and already posted that disgusting post within 7 posts.
shira
(30,109 posts)"What if the Jews themselves were Nazis? That would be great. We would no longer have to feel sorry for them; they would have deserved what they got."
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)albeit IRL they usually come in pairs
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)alerted on, the poster had been here for years with few posts most likely a disposable username however admins usually trace the IP of such users
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