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Related: About this forumTorture in Palestinian detention centers exposed by Palestinian human rights organization
Last month, the Palestinian organization the Independent Commission for Human Rights exposed that torture is being used in Palestinian Authority and Hamas detention centers in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip to make suspects confess during interrogations, the independent Palestinian news agency Ma'an reported.
General Director of the Independent Commission for Human Rights Dr. Ammar Dwaik explained that torture like "whippings, hanging a person from his hands while they are tied behind his back, verbal abuse, sleep deprivation and whipping the soles of feet" is being carried out in Palestinian detention centers by individuals despite the fact that it is against the law. The report stated that this happens with the knowledge of PA security forces. There were more complaints in the Gaza Strip than in the PA:
[Ma'an, independent Palestinian news agency, Dec. 16, 2015]
All cases of torture under PA jurisdiction violate Palestinian law. Official spokesman of the PA National Security Forces in the West Bank Adnan Al-Damiri stated in response to the ICHR report that whoever engages in torture "is a criminal and should be prosecuted."
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=17087
shira
(30,109 posts)They're Yawning.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)or someone in the West, the usual suspects ignore this story. How pathetically predictable. They only care about Palestinians when it concerns Israel - this is just more proof of that.
shira
(30,109 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Surely, there must be better sources for this?
shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:21 PM - Edit history (1)
....in their right mind questions PMW videos from the past several months that point to PA incitement.
In more than a decade of work and 1000's of videos later, there's only 1 video translation that's ever been challenged. And even that was weak based on the context.
When YOUR sources start actually reporting on real Palestinian incitement, as well as PA human rights violations like torture - let us know.
Until then, your sources are shit.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Your sources that choose to censor this information critical of the fascist PA are spewing 1-sided propaganda.
Until they report the facts, they're shit.
shira
(30,109 posts)I don't particularly prefer Ma'an News either, but it's a news source, so I guess a comment on that article is in order.
I'm completely opposed to any forms of torture or manhandling of suspects. What the Palestinian security forces are doing is very wrong, and the sheer number of allegations seem to indicate that the use of torture is endemic. As usual, the PA says it's going to stop this, but as usual nothing's done about it.
I think that exposing torture is the first step toward eradicating it. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone is prepared to go a step further and actually spend any resources on eradicating these practices. The end result will be that the PA justice will remain arbitrary and corrupt.
shira
(30,109 posts)They won't do it because they value their reporters' lives.
That means what the PA wants, the media will report. Same for Hamas in Gaza. The media will spew their propaganda & censor gross human rights violations by the PA and Hamas. Not always due to intimidation, but also anti-Israel bias.
You can't learn anything from such media when they're basically media outlets for fascist propaganda.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Either way, I believe that the only feasible way to get the PA on the right track in the long-term is to remove the occupation and Israeli control of the West Bank.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)practice from your link
Dmeiri referred to any cases of torture in PA detention centers as extrajudicial individual practices that violate the instructions given by leaders of security services.
Dmeiri added that there have been cases of punishment against PA security officers in the past, including termination of service.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in 2014 signed the letter of accession to the United Nations Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.
Dwaik told Maan that since Palestine became a signatory to the convention, the Palestinian political echelon started to pay more attention to human rights issues.
Despite a perceived change in attitude towards torture in Palestinian detention centers, the ICHR director told Maan: There is still a long way to go until torture is completely stopped.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=769362
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)is this something you would rather keep unknown?