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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:17 PM Feb 2016

Israel, EU resume contacts after dispute over settlement product labels

Source: Jerusalem Post

Netanyahu spoke by telephone with Federica Mogherini, ending an extended period in which diplomatic contacts between Jerusalem and Brussels were frozen.

The European Union’s top foreign policy representative told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday that Brussels “expresses its solidarity with the people of Israel in light of the terrorist attacks” perpetrated by Palestinian in recent months.

Netanyahu spoke by telephone with Federica Mogherini, the high representative of the EU for foreign affairs and security policy, ending an extended period in which diplomatic contacts between Jerusalem and Brussels were frozen.

Israel has started to engage in low key diplomatic talks with the European Union to hash out strained relations stemming from the bloc's settlement labeling plan, Israel Radio reported on Wednesday.

The EU stands firm in its decision to label products made over the Green Line, however it is reportedly willing to provide Israel compensation in order to resume suspended EU involvement in diplomatic dialogue on peace efforts with the Palestinians.

Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israel-EU-resume-contacts-after-dispute-over-settlement-product-labels-444736

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shira

(30,109 posts)
1. Until the EU labels products from other occupied territory....
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:48 PM
Feb 2016

....like N.Cyprus & W.Sahara, they're hypocritical fraudulent anti-Jew racists like Europe was 75 years ago.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
2. When it comes to Western Sahara, it's not really an issue -
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:40 AM
Feb 2016

the exports are minimal, and there's already a lot of disinvestment going on already for what little there is.

Cyprus is different - while part of the island can be said to be Turkey occupied by proxy, the population isn't. Agricultural produce can't legally be exported to the EU without approval from the Republic of Cyprus, which means no. I've no idea about the remaining exports from Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, if any.

My point is that when exports from occupied territories actually becomes a problem, the EU will probably take some kind of action. The wrongly labeled exports from the illegal settlements in the West Bank have been going on for a long time, and Israel has had obvious difficulties rectifying the problem, which prompted the EU labeling directive.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. BDS smells exactly like the Arab boycott of Israel from decades ago.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:47 PM
Feb 2016

Before any occupation or settlements.

Check into that.

Boycotting Israel today is no less racist than it was then.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
6. Yep. People in Europe will still be able to buy wine made from the crushed hopes of a Palestinian
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016

state.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
5. Your wild accusations are really wild...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feb 2016

Let's compare the Arab League boycott with BDS:

Arab League Boycott of Israel, by Martin A. Weiss, June 10, 2015
Source: Federation of American Scientists

(snip)

Current Status of the Boycott
The boycott has three tiers. The primary boycott prohibits citizens of an Arab League member from buying from, selling to, or entering into a business contract with either the Israeli government or an Israeli citizen. The secondary boycott extends the primary boycott to any entity world-wide that does business with Israel. A blacklist of global firms that engage in business with Israel is maintained by the Central Boycott Office, and disseminated to Arab League members. The tertiary boycott prohibits an Arab League member and its nationals from doing business with a company that in turn deals with companies that have been blacklisted by the Arab League. The boycott also applies to companies that the Arab League identifies as having “Zionist sympathizers” in executive positions or on the board of the company. According to one analyst, the “nature and detail of these rules reflect the boycotting countries’ tolerance for only the most minimal contacts with Israel.”

The Arab League does not enforce the boycott and boycott regulations are not binding on member states. However, the regulations have been the model for various laws implemented by member countries. The League recommends that member countries demand certificates of origin on all goods acquired from suppliers to ensure that such goods meet all aspects of the boycott.

(snip)
The Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) Movement
A “BDS” (boycott, divestment, and sanctions) movement against Israel—ostensibly linked to its treatment of Palestinians—has gained support among civil society organizations in a range of countries. Some divestment from and boycotts of Israel or Israeli goods have resulted. For example, the American Studies Association, a scholarly organization devoted to the interdisciplinary study of American culture and history, voted for an academic boycott of Israeli institutions in December 2013, amplifying the controversy surrounding the issue with lawmakers and with U.S. higher education institutions and student councils. Some who oppose BDS measures against companies in Israel because of concerns that the movement’s demands could endanger Israel’s identity as a Jewish state nevertheless support efforts to divest from Israeli companies doing business in West Bank settlements. Additionally, some European countries’ pension funds and companies have withdrawn investments or canceled contracts owing to concerns regarding connections with settlement activity. However, some reports have questioned whether such developments are properly characterized as constituting a boycott or a significant threat to Israel’s economy.

Critics, including some Members of Congress, argue that the BDS movement is discriminatory and are seeking legislative options to limit its influence. For example, a bill introduced in February 2015, H.R. 825, United States-Israel Trade and Commercial Enhancement Act, would, among other things, discourage prospective U.S. trade partners from engaging in “commercial discrimination” against Israel and require executive branch reports on politically motivated instances of BDS acts. At least two U.S. states have passed legislative measures or resolutions aimed at countering or criticizing BDS measures.

Source: https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33961.pdf

If you read the above carefully, you will see that the Arab League boycott is very different from BDS. The Arab League boycott is a blanket boycott of all Israelis and things Israeli. BDS, however takes aim on the settlements and the treatment of Palestinians, and doesn't discriminate against any nation or ethnicity.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
7. You don't get to define BDS as just a well-intentioned boycott of settlements.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:05 PM
Feb 2016

BDS is against the Jewish state altogether, not just settlements and so-called "Apartheid".

One of BDS' goals is full Right of Return, which you actually agree with and which would replace a liberal democracy with a fascist totalitarian regime which would be Hellish for Jews.

That goes much further than just your version of "ending Apartheid".

So ending the Jewish state is something that both the Arab boycott and BDS have as its main goal.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. And here's what Israel got in return...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:29 PM
Feb 2016

From the article:

Israel has been concerned that the labeling is a form of boycott and that it predetermines the final borders of the two state solutions. It believes those borders can only be set by Israelis and Palestinians through direct negotiations.

Mogherini assured Netanyahu that she agreed that Israel’s final borders should be set through such talks and that the labeling was not intended to prejudice any final status issues.
The consumer labels do not constitute a boycott and should not be interpreted as such, Mogherini told Netanyahu.


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