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shira

(30,109 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:25 AM Sep 2016

Black Lives Matter's Anti-Semitic Bedfellows

With the Black Lives Matter movement’s adoption of a formal manifesto charging Israel with genocide, militant anti-Zionists are threatening to sabotage yet another progressive cause.

Obsessed with spreading demonization of the Jewish state across the Western world by any means necessary and at any cost, time and again anti-Israel campaigners have fought tooth and nail to insert defamatory anti-Israel language into resolutions and bylaws of unions, NGOs, political parties and other institutions advancing unrelated progressive agendas. Time and again, this hijacking has driven more enlightened activists out of the host movement, contributing to its decline....

<snip>

...A related dynamic was evident in the unraveling of Britain’s Labour Party this spring, driven by the reluctance of Jeremy Corbyn and others to disavow a small minority of radical anti-Zionists within the party’s ranks. Britain’s Jewish community, which “once looked to Labour as its natural home,” wrote leftist Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedland, one of the country’s leading Jewish journalists, “is fast reaching the glum conclusion that Labour has become a cold house for Jews.”

It’s difficult to find a progressive cause that hasn’t been compromised in some way by the so-called Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, from the antiglobalization movement to the fight against sexual assault. “BDS destroys everything it touches,” observes Cornell law professor William A. Jacobson.

Perhaps the most thoroughly wrecked, ironically, is the Palestinian cause.
Having occupied the commanding heights of Middle East Studies departments in many major Western universities, anti-Zionist “progressives” have tiptoed around religious extremism, oppression of women and other social maladies in the Palestinian territories for fear of distracting attention away from Israel.


http://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matters-anti-semitic-bedfellows-17701?page=show

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Black Lives Matter's Anti-Semitic Bedfellows (Original Post) shira Sep 2016 OP
More from OP... shira Sep 2016 #1
Maybe stopping the settlements would stop BDS? brush Sep 2016 #2
What's driving progressive movements to compromise their principles... shira Sep 2016 #4
Why do the settlements keep happening, forcing Palestinians from their land? brush Sep 2016 #6
They're not forcing Palestinians from their land. Do you believe Jews have a right... shira Sep 2016 #7
Palestinians are being forced off their land, which is also their ancestral homeland brush Sep 2016 #18
A fate that has befallen pretty much every Jew everywhere they have ever lived in the world oberliner Sep 2016 #23
There is Israel now so why the continued settlements inflicting the same upon others? brush Sep 2016 #25
For decades some people love to drive wedges between blacks and jews. Bridges are better. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #3
Is the author of the OP a neocon or just a hardline conservative? Little Tich Sep 2016 #5
Who cares? Attacking the source is weak sauce, immature. shira Sep 2016 #8
In general, I'm very skeptic of Republicans telling BLM what they should or shouldn't do. Little Tich Sep 2016 #17
This is a great idea... tonedevil Sep 2016 #9
Way to deflect from the OP. Point being, BDS is ruining BLM as it poisons.... shira Sep 2016 #10
I'm sure BLM appreciates... tonedevil Sep 2016 #11
Well, I'm Jewish and hatred of Jews seeping into BLM makes this personal. shira Sep 2016 #12
I would never... tonedevil Sep 2016 #13
FYI: The BDS activists that insinuated themselves into the BLM movement are white people. Mosby Sep 2016 #14
LoL @ assuming I'm white... shira Sep 2016 #15
Riiiiight.. whathehell Sep 2016 #19
I will back on out... tonedevil Sep 2016 #20
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! whathehell Sep 2016 #21
You are not /nt tonedevil Sep 2016 #22
Whatever.. whathehell Sep 2016 #24
Completely misses the problem aranthus Sep 2016 #16
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
1. More from OP...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:28 AM
Sep 2016

<snip>

....There was backlash even within the African American community. The Ecumenical Leadership Council of Missouri, which represents hundreds of predominantly African American churches throughout the state, issued a statement saying it “rejects without hesitation any notion or assertion that Israel operates as an apartheid country” and reminding the public that Jewish Americans have “worked with African-Americans during the civil rights era when others refused us service at the counter — and worse.”

What accounts for this extraordinary nihilism on the part of supposedly progressive BDS activists? Holding an extreme position on Israel is one thing—that can be the result of ideology, religious beliefs, ignorance or something else. Being willing to sacrifice all other causes and concerns ordinarily convergent with one’s worldview for the sake of hurting the Jewish state is something altogether different.

[font color = "blue"]This unusual grade of obsessive, self-destructive antipathy is a hallmark of classical eliminationist anti-Semitism. Unlike ordinary intergroup prejudice “found in the suspicion and resentment which are often directed against neighbors of another tribe, another race, another faith, or from another place,” explains historian Bernard Lewis, anti-Semitism is a “special and peculiar hatred” that attributes to Jews “secret and diabolical power.”

Against such a perceived enemy, no sacrifice is too great. Nazi Germany’s diversion of much-needed resources in the final months of World War II from fighting the Red Army (and providing for the escape of German refugees) to exterminating more Jews makes sense only to someone who sees the latter as a cosmic evil.

Although anti-Semites often go to great pains to avoid expressing their hatred as anti-Jewish (indeed, they coined the term “anti-Semitism” itself as a politically correct euphemism for Judenhass), this unique cognitive signature is easy enough to spot—just take a measurement of what the subjects are prepared to sacrifice to harm Jews.
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To date, however, mainstream liberals in America have been reluctant to call out the anti-Semites wreaking havoc within the ranks of the Left. If black lives—or socioeconomic justice, peace, women’s rights, etc.—really matter to them, why have they allowed the cancer to metastasize this long?

Gary C. Gambill is a research fellow at the Middle East Forum.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
4. What's driving progressive movements to compromise their principles...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:42 AM
Sep 2016

Last edited Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:11 AM - Edit history (2)

....by allowing BDS to sabotage, poison & devastate their movements?

There are other occupations & settlements throughout the world. No one knows or cares about them. So why this obsession with Israel, which destroys & rots out each and every progressive movement it touches? Why is this being allowed?

That reason is explained in the OP, second part which was cited in post #1. BDS turns into shit everything it touches. You don't see the problem?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
7. They're not forcing Palestinians from their land. Do you believe Jews have a right...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:15 PM
Sep 2016

...to live in their historic homeland? And why do you care more about Israeli settlements than settlements anywhere else around the world in other occupations?

brush

(53,787 posts)
18. Palestinians are being forced off their land, which is also their ancestral homeland
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:27 PM
Sep 2016

As for your second question, we're talking about Israeli settlements forcing others off their land, not some other settlements.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. A fate that has befallen pretty much every Jew everywhere they have ever lived in the world
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:08 PM
Sep 2016

Over the past two thousand years.

Either forced off their land or exterminated.

That was part of the motivation behind trying to have one country where they wouldn't be subject to that sort of thing.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
5. Is the author of the OP a neocon or just a hardline conservative?
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:11 AM
Sep 2016

A quick Google reveals that he's a prolific writer for various conservative and neocon outlets. Either way, it's very probable that he never liked BLM anyway, regardless of their stance on Israel.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. Who cares? Attacking the source is weak sauce, immature.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:16 PM
Sep 2016

If you find something wrong, inaccurate, stupid.... let me know.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
17. In general, I'm very skeptic of Republicans telling BLM what they should or shouldn't do.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:26 PM
Sep 2016

Fortunately, I doubt that right-wing conservatives have much leverage with a progressive movement like BLM.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
9. This is a great idea...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 04:21 PM
Sep 2016

white people telling black people what to do and why they are wrong. The comments like the one I blockquoted below that are on the site at your link provide a wonderful look into the minds of these white benefactors:

You have nothing to teach anyone you mush brained BLM activist... the DNC is the
organization that kept blacks as slave in the south and and the theory
of "southern strategy" IS DEMOCRAT REVISIONIST BS .. DNC has always been
the party of slavery, and they still are to this day. You are a globalist loving, multi national corporate lackey... that's all you are. So buy your brands, like your Nikes and your Jordan's and act like you have something to say , but you just dont. Once the democrat burn the Constitution .. the black people are going to be the first to feel the wrath of what a police state really is. You know where white systemic racism really lives... in most countries BESIDES the USA. You people are digging your own graves.

You really like to side with the best of humanity don't you?
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
10. Way to deflect from the OP. Point being, BDS is ruining BLM as it poisons....
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 04:43 PM
Sep 2016

....every progressive movement it touches. Anyone for BLM who actually cares for Black lives should want Jew hating BDS holes out of their movement altogether.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
11. I'm sure BLM appreciates...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 06:26 PM
Sep 2016

your advice and has just been waiting for white people to point out the error in their ways.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
12. Well, I'm Jewish and hatred of Jews seeping into BLM makes this personal.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 06:30 PM
Sep 2016

Jews have a right to be offended @ Jew hating ass holes taking over progressive movements.

And we sure as hell don't need your permission to speak out.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
13. I would never...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:04 PM
Sep 2016

pretend to be in the position of granting you permission to do anything. You should keep speking up like this I can't begin to say how effective I think it is for whtie people to point out to black people how wrong they are.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
15. LoL @ assuming I'm white...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:01 PM
Sep 2016
Jewish privilege: being attacked as non-white by white supremacists while being dismissed as white by "anti-racists".

1/3 of my family was wiped out within living memory for not being "white". They were hated & targeted for not being white. White people of BDS infesting BLM are poisoning it with the same old hatred. Nothing to be proud of there.

Meanwhile, along those lines...

Newsweek Editor Claims ‘Zionist Cry Babies’ Have No Ties to Israel in Twitter Rant

High-level editor of Newsweek Middle East evoked what some called anti-Semitic tropes in a lengthy Twitter exchange on September 6.

In responding to a flurry of online criticism of a piece published by Newsweek Middle East titled “Where is Palestine?” Leila Hatoum alluded to the notion that Eastern-European Jews have no ancestral or historic connection to the Middle East....

...The rightwing website the Tower also highlighted a two-year-old tweet in which Hatoum evoked the “Khazar hypothesis,” used historically “to say that Jews are not the Chosen People of God,” said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center, “and that they are making a false claim to Israel.” According to the hypothesis, Ashkenazi Jewry come originally from a kingdom of Khazaria, in Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and converted to Judaism en masse centuries ago.

The hypothesis has been discussed and employed by a whole range of groups and thinkers — from the neo-Nazi Christian Identity movement to the left-wing Israeli author Sholomo Sand. In it’s most extreme permutations, the hypothesis is employed to “prove” that the European Jews of today — and their ancestors and descendants — are not the “true descendants” of the Hebrews of the Bible. Potok called is “a hardline anti-Semitic theory.”

Though the hypothesis has a much older history, it was popularized in 1976 by Arthur Koestler in a book titled The Thirteenth Tribe. Koestler, ironically, was seeking to combat anti-Semitism by proving that Jews were “white” Europeans — not Semites.


http://forward.com/news/350062/newsweek-editor-claims-zionist-cry-babies-have-no-ties-to-israel-in-twitter/?attribution=home-hero-item-text-1

See how that works? Jews are white descendants of Khazars & don't belong in Israel.

Pretty nasty shit there.



whathehell

(29,067 posts)
19. Riiiiight..
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 07:48 AM
Sep 2016

White people can't say anything, but they're expected to take in every syllable from Black people?...Sorry, but that ain't gonna play...Nice fantasy, though.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
20. I will back on out...
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 12:26 PM
Sep 2016

of this little den of white supremacy at this point. Thanks for showing me who you are. Maya Angelou was correct. I believe you.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
16. Completely misses the problem
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:20 PM
Sep 2016

The antisemitism of the the BLM platform is not merely an unfortunate add on by radical Leftists. It is in fact the tip of a completely rotten iceberg. Yes, Jews care about the antisemitism, but everyone should care about what that means. It's another canary in the coal mine. The antisemitism is a warning of greater problems in the movement. Unfortunately the current BLM platform is not only a complete non-starter. The more ordinary Americans understand the substance of it, the more of them will just shut down whatever conversation is beginning on this important issue.

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