Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumHow Involved in Terror Against Israelis and Jews are the Iranians?
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/blogs/this-ongoing-war/how-involved-in-terror-against-israelis-and-jews-are-the-iranians/2012/07/22/Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)I would say a lot more then single digits.
Dovid Rees
(21 posts)Can you give an example from unbiased, mainstream sources of this ever happening?
When has Israel ever killed any Iranian civilian who wasn't a potential terror suspect?
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)Best guess is that it's the Israelies.
IMO, it's a damn sight better than all-out war.
Dovid Rees
(21 posts)The chance of it being Israel is few and far between. Even if it is Israel, they have a legitimate reason to do so: defending Israel from those who are actively participating in attempting to destroy the Middle East's only democracy.
In reality it's most likely the Saudis however.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)That would be a legitimate reason one would think.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)conduct these types of operations if it can avoid or delay an all-out war.
But I think it's being more than a little coy to pretend that they don't have a hand in these assassinations.
kayecy
(1,417 posts)A new book by respected Israeli and American journalists called Spies Against Armageddon says the Mossad would never have farmed out the job to outsiders. The killings of the four scientists and the attempted murder of a fifth, were "blue and white" operations, the Mossad parlance for Israeli.
For such a sensitive, dangerous, and daring mission as a series assassinations in Iran's capital, the Mossad would not depend on hired-guns mercenaries. They would be considered far less trustworthy, and there was hardly any chance that the Mossad would reveal to non-Israelis some of its assassination unit's best methods.
The Mossad unit carrying out the assassinations is called Kidon, or Bayonet, which was infiltrated into the country by various routes
Even more intriguing is the following extract:
The authors, Yossi Melman and Dan Raviv, also have more detail than I have seen anywhere else on Mossad efforts to smear Mohamed ElBaradei, the former director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). It fed suggestions he was in the Iranians' pocket to the Mubarak regime, to little effect, so it dreamed up other dirty tricks.
One such plan was to penetrate his bank account and deposit money there that he would not be able to explain. The psychological warfare department then would spread rumours to journalists that ElBaradei was receiving bribes from Iranian agents. In the end, that did not occur.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)There seem to be quite a few of those lately.
Yeah Its Spin
(236 posts)Really? Good thing we have the NYPD to save America and..
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Flatulo
(5,005 posts)to conduct cutting edge surveillance, etc. Their capabilities are on a par with some Federal agencies and even nation-states.
And it's a damned good thing. Islamists have demonstrated very effectively that they believe it to be a target rich environment.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)terrorists who hijacked four airliners and flew then into various targets on 9/11.
A lot of the posters around here believe that the whole war on terror is a fabrication concocted by someone to accomplish some nefarious goal or other.
Thankfully there are enough adults running things to recognize this threat and their diligence has kept us safe for a decade.
PS: don't tell anyone, but I also strongly support the CIA's drone program.