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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:52 AM Sep 2012

Romney criticizes Obama for not meeting Netanyahu



Republican Mitt Romney is criticizing President Barack Obama for not planning to meet in person with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu next week, calling it "confusing and troubling."

Romney said at a New York fundraiser Friday that Israel is America's "closest ally" and "best friend in the Middle East." He urged Obama to meet with Netanyahu surrounding the start of United Nations General Assembly meetings next week.

The White House has denied published reports that Obama had rejected Netanyahu's request for a meeting with the president in Washington next week, saying no such request was made or rejected.

The White House says Obama and Netanyahu spoke for an hour Tuesday night and reaffirmed their countries' commitment to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

http://azdailysun.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/romney-criticizes-obama-for-not-meeting-netanyahu/article_b3f26959-4064-5ba8-8c3e-81afdae50414.html
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Romney criticizes Obama for not meeting Netanyahu (Original Post) bemildred Sep 2012 OP
Seriously tyne Sep 2012 #1
Last I heard JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #2
another Mittens sees his chance story azurnoir Sep 2012 #3
I'm sort of stunned. Speechless. bemildred Sep 2012 #4
True this campaign has been nasty to the point of ridiculous azurnoir Sep 2012 #5
Well, there is 64, 68. and 72, each in its own way a debacle. bemildred Sep 2012 #6
True enough Nixon is the Republican in 3 of the 4 campaigns mentioned azurnoir Sep 2012 #7
Ford wasn't elected oberliner Sep 2012 #9
yes that's what I meant by Nixon being "rumored" to have made backroom deals to be pardoned azurnoir Sep 2012 #10
"I've committed adultery in my heart many times...." oberliner Sep 2012 #8
Not bemildred here but IMO that statemment put Carter azurnoir Sep 2012 #11
A good question. bemildred Sep 2012 #12
something I remember about Carter that probably lost him friends in DC azurnoir Sep 2012 #13
He had a quite progressive agenda, but Congress wasn't having much of it, bemildred Sep 2012 #14
Ted Kennedy didn't think so oberliner Sep 2012 #15
Like I said, he is a conservative, a religious and social conservative. bemildred Sep 2012 #17
Kennedy's concerns about Carter had nothing to do with religious/social issues oberliner Sep 2012 #19
Yeah, thinking is such fun, eh? bemildred Sep 2012 #20
I think maybe Carter gave the American people more credit than we deserve azurnoir Sep 2012 #16
Yep, or he was "naive", or before his time, or some other metaphor of your choice. bemildred Sep 2012 #18
my opin ion about the public debate not being being all too real came azurnoir Sep 2012 #21

tyne

(1,248 posts)
1. Seriously
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:56 AM
Sep 2012

"Romney said at a New York fundraiser Friday that Israel is America's "closest ally" and "best friend in the Middle East."

What has Israel ever done for us to warrant "ally" status? I'm sure there's something...

Seems to me like we have a one-sided friendship.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
2. Last I heard
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sep 2012

President Obama is not their 'step and fetch boy' - much as Romney, Netanyahu and the guy who supports them BOTH - Sheldon Adelson - would like to think.

Rich. White. Male. Arrogance. Regardless of their respective religions. . .

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. I'm sort of stunned. Speechless.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:13 PM
Sep 2012

I haven't seen anything this debased and futile in Presidential politics since the 60s. But most of all these silly shits don't seem to realize that there could be a downside to pissing off Obama, and you'll never know if he decides to do something about it.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. True this campaign has been nasty to the point of ridiculous
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:38 PM
Sep 2012

everyday I see headlines upstairs about Romney saying this or that, I swear must come from The Onion but they don't

about the 60's campaign are talking a specific one or all 3 of them?

Nixon vs Kennedy (will the Vatican rule the US?)

Goldwater vs Johnson (nuclear nightmare)

or Nixon vs Humphrey (Vietnam)

all 3 were pretty nasty

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Well, there is 64, 68. and 72, each in its own way a debacle.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:00 PM
Sep 2012

But Nixon is the guy, back then, who reminds of Rmoney, and this campaign. The secret plans, the brinskmanship and fear-mongering, dirty tricks, international provocations, jingoism, the lies and name-calling, that's all Nixon, you won't find it carried to that level in Presidential politics before then, it was dirty, but they still tried to maintain the image. Nixon is where it became a racist, jingo mud-fight, playing off LBJ and the civil rights act and Title IX and other feminist laws, the culture war. And Raygun picked up that torch and passed it on.

1960 was still conducted according to some standards, real debates and everything, I remember, but that didn't win, after that, it was all handlers and consultants and throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, sort of what Rmoney is doing now, he is just saying things like you would try passwords, looking for some response.

Some of that, to be fair, is our fault, before TV the US' electorate had a longer attention span and could handle big words.

But then it always gets emotional when the conservatives are losing the culture wars badly, I remember the furor over Jimmy Carter, and he was a conservative southern white man and straight as an arrow.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. True enough Nixon is the Republican in 3 of the 4 campaigns mentioned
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:43 PM
Sep 2012

and he was known for dirty tricks and rumor has even when he was caught and had to resign from office he still made backroom deals to be pardoned as to Cater and the 76 campaign what I really remember is not so much dirt but feeling pretty assured Gerald Ford didn't stand a snowballs chance in Hades, but I do remember the dirt after he was elected

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. yes that's what I meant by Nixon being "rumored" to have made backroom deals to be pardoned
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:29 PM
Sep 2012

but Ford ran against Carter in 1976 and lost

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. "I've committed adultery in my heart many times...."
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:06 PM
Sep 2012

What was he doing giving an interview with Playboy in the first place?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. Not bemildred here but IMO that statemment put Carter
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:37 PM
Sep 2012

a bit ahead of Clinton who ah did it with his 'part' as opposed to only in his heart, besides can you honestly think of any married man or women for that matter who hasn't committed adultery in their hearts, at least these days?

BTW Playboy is 'almost' respectable I'd question it much more if it had been Penthouse or Hustler

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. A good question.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:38 PM
Sep 2012

I can't imagine anybody doing that today, "risking" it. Much has changed since then, including Playboy.

But I never said Jimmy was smart, though if I remember right he was a nuukular engineer at one point, anyway, no dummy, but he always had this kind of goober good will, or maybe it was christian charity, but anyway he was not a cynic, and that was one of the things they tagged him with in 1980, not being "tough" enough.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
13. something I remember about Carter that probably lost him friends in DC
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:55 PM
Sep 2012

If memory serves once in office Carter cut back quite a bit on some of the perks governmental officials got

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
14. He had a quite progressive agenda, but Congress wasn't having much of it,
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:00 PM
Sep 2012

once they lost their fear of the electorate. He was always an outsider, never made the transition to insider like Clinton did. Maybe if he'd got that 2nd term. But then we'd be far different country now.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
17. Like I said, he is a conservative, a religious and social conservative.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:50 AM
Sep 2012

However, economically and politically, he advanced progressive policies.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Kennedy's concerns about Carter had nothing to do with religious/social issues
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:55 AM
Sep 2012

They were related to his not having particularly progressive positions, economically or politically.

Health care reform being one example.

Imagine what things would be like today if Kennedy had won the nomination over Carter!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. Yeah, thinking is such fun, eh?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:03 AM
Sep 2012

Sort of like the old Obama-Clinton argument now. It's funny how little historical non-events like Chappaquiddick can have profound long-term consequences. Or the Lewinski affair. Jimmy knew to keep his pecker in his pants too, unless he had the appropraite counter-party handy.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
16. I think maybe Carter gave the American people more credit than we deserve
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:34 AM
Sep 2012

I remember his Rosegarden Campaign, he conducted his freelection campaign from the WH because of the Iran hostage crisis and thought the American people would understand that sort of altruism, sadly he was wrong

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
18. Yep, or he was "naive", or before his time, or some other metaphor of your choice.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:54 AM
Sep 2012

What I remember mainly is his inauguration; and how surprised I was when the media turned on him. That was when I first began to realize just how fake our public political "debate" is.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. my opin ion about the public debate not being being all too real came
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:38 PM
Sep 2012

before that, when I was in High School and my 11th grade civics class was the Watergate Trials, but it later when Reagan was elected in fact the day after when how deep the hatred in our country went I was working as a waitress at a Denny's and listening to the early morning working class breakfast crowd go on about how Reagan was change change everything or "ya let those lazy ni**ers starve to death, good enough for em", it wasn't that I was unaware of racial hatred but I did not realize the depth it went too, at least in 'liberal' Minneapolis

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