Masterful understatement there.

and do something serious about it. Instead of just talking, some strong countries can stand up and do something.

What would you like to see happen?

Polly this is awful. I'm an atheist at heart but when there is nothing else to do but pray for peace and resolution, I guess that is what I will do.

Mass punishment on an imprisoned people, it's hard to comprehend the cruelty of it, isn't it?

There isn't a word in what you wrote that isn't false.

But I guess it shouldn't be entirely surprising.

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And what isn't surprising to you? You called me a liar ........ spell out for me, what did I lie about? I said that collective punishment against an imprisoned people is an incomprehensible cruelty. That you disagree is just disgusting.

"The other difference is that, unlike Nissim and his family, most people in Gaza have nowhere else to flee. And the reason that they must live under the rain of bombs in one of the most densely populated areas on earth is because Israel – and to a lesser extent Egypt – has sealed the borders to create a prison for them.

Israel has denied Gaza a port, control of its airspace and the right of its inhabitants to move to the other Palestinian territory recognised by the Oslo accords, the West Bank. It is not, as Israel’s supporters allege, that Hamas is hiding among Palestinian civilians; rather, Israel has forced Palestinian civilians to live in a tiny strip of land that Israel turned into a war zone."

The OP is not a neutral journalist.

But I do think there are some who try.

Awards

In 2008, Omer was awarded the 2007 Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism.[14] In the award citation, Omer was honored as "the voice of the voiceless" and his reports were described as an "humane record of the injustice imposed on a community forgotten by much of the world.".[15] Noam Chomsky said he had been following Omer's work for several years, and was pleased to learn of his award, "an honor that he richly deserves." He went on, he "...has continued his work with courage and integrity. It is no exaggeration to say that he can serve as a model of honorable journalism,".[16] He was also awarded the Ossietzky Prize by Norwegian P.E.N in 2009. Norwegian P.E.N is a branch of P.E.N International. The Prize was awarded for "outstanding achievements within the field of free expression".[17] He was also given an honorable mention in Pulse Media's 20 Top Global Media Figures of 2009.[18]

“Best Youth Voice” (2006).[19]
Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism (2008) [14]
Ossietzky Prize (2009)[20]
Press Freedom Prize (2009) [21]

Omer was raised in the Rafah refugee camp at the southern end of the Gaza Strip near the Egyptian border. Mohammed began working to support his family at age six when his father was in an Israeli prison. In time, he landed a job at a backpack factory and since then has built an impressive resume as a translator, journalist, and program coordinator."[22]

Mohammed graduated with dual Bachelor degrees, English and Literature, from the Islamic University of Gaza in June 2006.[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Omer

from your wiki link

If anyone has legitimate reasons not to be neutral, it's him.

After he received the Martha Gellhorn Prize in June 2008 Mohammed Omer travelled back to the Gaza Strip via the West Bank, Omer reported that he was stripped to his underwear, humiliated and beaten by Israeli soldiers while travelling into the West Bank from Jordan. According to a United Nations report, Mohammed Omer is convinced that the brutal assault occurred when the security services were frustrated at their inability to confiscate the money he’d been awarded. He was subsequently hospitalized upon his return to Gaza, where it was discovered that Omer had sustained severe damage to the spine and ribs and various bodily contusions as a result of the ordeal.

Since November 2008 Mohammed Omer has been in the Netherlands receiving medical treatments for his injuries.

The Reporters Without Borders Press Freedom Prize 2008 will be officially awarded to Mohammed Omer on 17th of February 2009. The prize ceremony takes place in the International Press Centre at the Ministry for Foreign Affairs, in Stockholm.

He is not one of them. He doesn't even attempt to be neutral.

Try to read something about him outside of Wikipedia or his bio.

I don't take your fucking orders.

And I was telling someone else what to read. Suggesting they look at other sources.

You are welcome to stick to biased sources exclusively if you so choose.

"Try to read something about him outside of Wikipedia or his bio." Don't bullshit.

And yes, I'll stick to any sources I please. Thankfully they include articles and contributors I respect from all sides. You however, seem to be a bit limited.

You don't have to try if you don't want to. I thought it might help you understand him better - where he is coming from, and why he is justifiably biased.

I am certainly open to suggestions with respect to sources - I try to read across a very wide spectrum - including from those I don't respect all that much (but take their opinions accordingly).

My opinion is, he's a fine reporter and is only putting forth the same facts as are here as in many other threads already. I also try to read across a very wide spectrum. I don't need your 'help'.

That helps me understand where you are coming from.

So far, that's about all you've added to this thread.

If any such being exists!

The only things you've added are to call me a liar and a decorated journalist not worth reading. And who are you again? You seem to have a real problem with information getting out that hasn't been propagandized and twisted to make this a lot less ugly. Too bad.

Did he win the "Distinguished Typing Cross"? or the "Twitter Medal of Honour"?

Ok by you?

... what's she doing these days?

Why, you looking for her?

Oh please, dear God....

I guess that just proves the old adage -- "There are no atheists in discussion boards"

... you might want to rethink those verbs.

Au contraire, I was just trying to keep track of his ever-changing belief system.

But you couldn't even get your facts straight. Try harder next time.

... I envy your naivete.

... sounds like you could use a larf.

Perhaps israel should stop stealing land and destroying property.

Israel stole Gaza? From whom?

Israel took Gaza from Egypt in '67, who stole it from the Palestinians in '48, in a war that Egypt started and subsequently returned it to the Palestinians in '05.

"So what of Gaza? What does it mean when Israel threatens, bombs, and kills to ensure its compliance? Its compliance with what?

Note that the territorial and demographic reality that is the Gaza Strip is itself, to begin, an ominous reflection of Israeli colonial strategy to date: “When transfer doesn’t work, concentration is tried.”

In 1948, the greater part of Palestine’s population was forcefully displaced beyond Israel’s pre-1967 sphere of control to clear the way for Israel’s anachronistic pioneering. A great number of the “transferred” ended up in the Gaza Strip. Their nearby existence quickly gave rise to an abiding Israeli wish: “If I believed in miracles,” declared David Ben-Gurion in an October 1956 Knesset speech, “I would pray that Gaza would be washed down into the sea.”[8] After 1967, Gaza’s inhabitants not only remained above water but came under direct Israeli rule.

Several decades later, they surely aren’t taking up very much room. “Taken in isolation,” Darryl Li wrote in 2006, “the Gaza Strip is often described as one of the most densely populated places on earth: 1.4 million Palestinians crowded into 365 square kilometers. But in the broader Zionist calculus of minima and maxima, this fact can be redescribed as follows: some 25 percent of all Palestinians living under Israeli control have been confined to 1.4 percent of the territory of the British Mandate of Palestine.”

http://www.zcommunications.org/for-israel-imperialism-isn-t-enough-by-dan-freeman-maloy

"What does it mean when Israel threatens, bombs, and kills to ensure its compliance? Its compliance with what? "

It doesn't mean stealing. You can accuse Israelis of many things -- but, you can't accuse them of "stealing Gaza" when there isn't a single Jew in Gaza.

As for "Israel colonisation"? Well -- Jews are indigenous to the Palestine and have been there for pretty much all of recorded history. You can't colonise a place you've always been. The establishment of Israel wasn't colonisation, it was partition.

If you have a problem with partition, you might want to share some of your indignation for India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, North and South Korea, pretty much all of the Arab states and all of the former Yugoslavia.

half people into the poverty, hopelessness and terror of Gaza.

http://fasttimesinpalestine.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/maps-of-israel-palestine/ - many interesting maps.



http://www.mintpress.net/this-land-is-their-land-the-continued-fight-over-palestine/

Impressions of Gaza

Noam Chomsky November 4, 2012

http://chomsky.info/articles/20121104.htm

... is apparently ignorant or just deliberately misleading when he quotes from his Palestinian medical source ...

"Israeli occupation denied him a permit to go to Israeli hospitals for treatment. I had to suspend my study, work and life and go to set next to his bed. We all sat including my brother the physician and my sister the pharmacist, all powerless and hopeless watching his suffering. He died during the inhumane blockade of Gaza in summer 2006 with very little access to health service."

For one thing -- every year Israeli hospitals treat over 100,000 Palestinian patients, mostly women and children, for free. They perform everything from basic medical procedures to organ transplants on Palestinian patients. Over 100 Palestinian doctors intern in Israeli hospitals. I'm sorry the young woman's father died from cancer but if you're aware of a cure for advanced cancer (the PT died six months after the diagnosis) that could have saved this man that the Israelis are hiding from the world, please, let us know. Israeli doctors have saved more children than the IDF will ever harm in their crackdown on Hamas militants -- but you won't see any of acknowledgement of that here.

As for Mr Carter -- even the NY Times has pointed out his biased mendacity, pointing to his "narrow outlook" and falsification of facts in his "Apartheid" book (and when you've lost The Times, you're off the grid). The Carter Centre received a $200 million endowment from Saudi Arabia and subsequently ignores Saudi human rights abuses to focus it's total ire on Israel. Someone that far "in the tank" can't even remotely be thought to be an unbiased source.

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I'm sorry, but there's been too much recorded and written by Israeli's themselves to ignore the truth of what people like Chomsky, or Carter or anyone else who's extensively studied the suffering of Palestinians have to say.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-war-s-seventh-day-1.51513

Michael Ben-Yair - former Attorney General of Israel