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Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:01 PM Dec 2012

Gaza attacks on Israel 'violation of laws of war'

Palestinian militants in Gaza violated the laws of war by firing rockets into Israel during last month's conflict, Human Rights Watch (HRW) says.

The New York-based watchdog also said Palestinian civilians were repeatedly put in harm's way when rockets were fired from densely populated areas.
...
"Palestinian armed groups made clear in their statements that harming civilians was their aim," said HRW's Middle East director, Sarah Leah Whitson.

"There is simply no legal justification for launching rockets at populated areas."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20836363
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Gaza attacks on Israel 'violation of laws of war' (Original Post) Fozzledick Dec 2012 OP
Finally! This is the way to go forward Recursion Dec 2012 #1
Human Rights Watch is a nazi Jew-hating anti-Israel organization that CAN'T BE TRUSTED! Scootaloo Dec 2012 #2
Where do you get this nonsense from? oberliner Dec 2012 #3
Well... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #4
Oh so you can't prove what you said King_David Dec 2012 #5
Okay. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #8
No one's ever said that oberliner Dec 2012 #10
Yes, there was a lot of effort put into portraying HRW as evil... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #11
A dollar short and years late. zellie Dec 2012 #6
This is their attempt at " balance ". nt King_David Dec 2012 #7
HRW have been criticising the Palestinians for many years now... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #9
So they are; targeting civilians is always wrong. LeftishBrit Dec 2012 #12
What sane person would defend rocket attacks? Solindsey Jan 2013 #13

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. Finally! This is the way to go forward
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:19 PM
Dec 2012

Recognize legitimate belligerency, and then try to mitigate it.

This will also require Hamas and more importantly Islamic Jihad leaders be tried by an international tribune, rather than simply kept in the memory hole by Israel.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Human Rights Watch is a nazi Jew-hating anti-Israel organization that CAN'T BE TRUSTED!
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:37 AM
Dec 2012

or so I/P regulars keep assuring me.

This declaration is nothing new for HRW, who have held this position since... uh... well, forever, really.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. Where do you get this nonsense from?
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:00 AM
Dec 2012

Please point to a single post from an I/P regular that says HRW is a "nazi Jew-hating" organization.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. Well...
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:05 AM
Dec 2012
"HRW is run by humanitarian racists....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11343358#post47

Check out the whole subthread starting here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=12946

There's this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11343456

Now, I would say that the use of "nazi" was hyperbole - and I would point out that you don't care when other hasbara peddlers use it that way - but when the constant message is that Human Rights Watch is a racist next of vipers who hate Israel and want nothing less than the total destruction of Israel and link arms with other anti-Jewish monsters to do so in a grand global conspiracy against the Jewish people? The allusion to naziism is pretty explicit

Also, have you ever heard of Marc Garlasco? See, his grandfather happened to serve in the wehrmacht during WW2, and Mr. Garlasco has a collection of Nazi-era souvenirs. Apparently, That makes him a nazi. His position in HRW of course makes HRW a Nazi hotbed.

This whole shindig is of course aided and abetted by the lobby group, NGO Monitor, who you just got done peddling defenses of. it at least avoids the wild-eyed Khaki-shirt rhetoric, but it still portrays HRW as a diabolical untrustworthy group in league with Israel's enemies due to a witches brew of leftism and irrational hate for Jews.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
5. Oh so you can't prove what you said
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:12 AM
Dec 2012

and go off on a different tangent .

Think if you throw so much information out there in a post that it will be forgot that you were meant to prove an absurd hyperbolic post ,that you were called out on, but couldn't .

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. Okay.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:01 AM
Dec 2012

Next time some dribbling cretin of a hasbara pimp starts with the "HRW HATES JEWS AND WANTS TO DESTROY ISRAEL," I'll be like "hey - shut the fuck up, hasbara pimp! Dave and Oberliner says they're A-Okay!"

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. No one's ever said that
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:04 AM
Dec 2012

You have these imaginary "cretin(s) of a hasbara pimp" in your mind that don't actually exist here.

It's really odd.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
11. Yes, there was a lot of effort put into portraying HRW as evil...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:32 AM
Dec 2012

Which they already are, according to the 'lip service, too little too late' brigade, or will be next week, according to the (timewarping forward a week here) 'HRW never criticises Hamas!' bunch.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
9. HRW have been criticising the Palestinians for many years now...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:29 AM
Dec 2012

I can give you links to a whole bunch of stuff going back years if I thought you were genuinelly interested in it...

 

Solindsey

(115 posts)
13. What sane person would defend rocket attacks?
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:13 AM
Jan 2013

It's a no-brainier. They should never happen.

Meanwhile, that doesn't mean Israel's attacks are any less condemnable and wrong.

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