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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:52 PM Feb 2013

Hanin Zoabi, Balad And The Jewish Vote

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/21/hanin-zoabi-balad-and-the-jewish-vote.html

MK Hanin Zoabi has had a tough term. Since first being elected to the Knesset in 2009 as number three on the list for Balad (National Democratic Assembly), the party founded by now-exiled former MK Azmi Bishara in 1995, Zoabi has endured almost constant personal and political attacks. She was aboard the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish ship participating in the "Free Gaza" flotilla, when it was raided by Israeli commandos in 2010. In the aftermath, she suffered verbal attacks and threats from other Knesset members, and Likud representative Anastasia Michaeli tried to physically prevent her from addressing the legislative body. Last month, Israel's Central Elections Committee voted to disqualify Zoabi's candidacy. At the conclusion of the December 27 hearing where a panel of nine justices, headed by Supreme Court President Asher Grunis, overturned the ruling, right-wing activists called her "terrorist" and "filth," and tried to push past her escorts to prevent her from making a statement.
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Hanin Zoabi, Balad And The Jewish Vote (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 OP
Your 3rd sympathetic post in a week about the terror supporting Zoabi.... shira Feb 2013 #1
Why don't you show the whole quote? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #2
That changes nothing. She doesn't believe Israelis of any type, elderly or children.... shira Feb 2013 #3
Context changes everything. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #4
How? Zoabi believes all Israelis are occupiers deserving of what they get (terror). shira Feb 2013 #5
Oh, Shira, you have cornered the market on outrage, albeit fake IMHO. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #6
Just pointing out hypocrisy, that's all... shira Feb 2013 #7
I'm posting a story relevant to Israel Palestine. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #8
You've posted 3 articles in the last week on Zoabi. It's obvious you like her..... shira Feb 2013 #12
If you don't like it then you can always ignore it. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #18
Thank you shira let's look at a snip from your link azurnoir Feb 2013 #9
I thought that the whole "Jewish friend" retort was weirdness incarnate R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #10
weirdness yes band not something I'd have thrown into the mix azurnoir Feb 2013 #11
It means she's a raging bigot like Ben Ari. n/t shira Feb 2013 #14
You guys are sympathetic to Zoabi... shira Feb 2013 #13
This 'guy' was pointing out what your article actually said azurnoir Feb 2013 #15
Right. Zoabi is a pro-terror racist and darling of the anti-Israel Left. n/t shira Feb 2013 #16
wellspeaking of isms and support azurnoir Feb 2013 #17
"You guys are sympathetic to Zoabi." R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #19
She's loved by the pro-BDS, anti-zionist Left. What do you make of that? n/t shira Feb 2013 #20
I don't make much out of your imitation outrage. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #21
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
2. Why don't you show the whole quote?
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:36 PM
Feb 2013

"Israel has no right to live in security while it is an occupier."

Are you afraid of something..that others might see you left something out?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. That changes nothing. She doesn't believe Israelis of any type, elderly or children....
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:43 PM
Feb 2013

...have a right to live in security.

Children are occupiers too, apparently.

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You admire Zoabi?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
4. Context changes everything.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:48 PM
Feb 2013

It's funny that you have that opinion of her when Israelis voted her into office.

Perhaps you should direct your rage at them.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
6. Oh, Shira, you have cornered the market on outrage, albeit fake IMHO.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:59 PM
Feb 2013

I would never try and take that away from you.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
7. Just pointing out hypocrisy, that's all...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:04 PM
Feb 2013

Your claims of being a humanist, but also a fan of someone beyond the pale like Zoabi.

That's like being a humanist supporter of Meir Kahane.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
8. I'm posting a story relevant to Israel Palestine.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:22 PM
Feb 2013

If you don't like it then you can always ignore it.

On edit: What do you think of the Israelis that elected her into office? She is an MK, right?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
12. You've posted 3 articles in the last week on Zoabi. It's obvious you like her.....
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:55 AM
Feb 2013
On edit: What do you think of the Israelis that elected her into office? She is an MK, right?


They're no better than Israelis who'd vote Meir Kahane in along with his terrorist agenda.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. Thank you shira let's look at a snip from your link
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:32 PM
Feb 2013
The battle cries resounded a few minutes after Zuabi and the Balad representatives left the courtroom. “Terrorist! Filth! Kick out all the terrorists and throw the terrorist collaborators overboard!” Zuabi’s perma-smile froze, stretching her facial muscles tight, as if in a spasm. The right-wing activists, determined to prevent Zuabi from making a statement to the media in the Supreme Court building, started to push her escorts in an effort to get to her.

When camera crews rushed to capture the event, Zuabi and her group were caught in the crush. It took the ushers and security men a few minutes to recover. (“I’ve never seen anything like this in the Supreme Court,” one of them said.) “Look who the attackers are! Do something!” a woman shouted. Finally, Zuabi and the others were hustled out, surrounded by ushers.

Ben Ari*(see below) seemed pleased with the turn of events. “If she is not disqualified she will throw a bomb in the Knesset,” he told reporters. “And then it will be said that two kilos of explosives is not a critical mass” – referring to Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein’s opinion that there isn’t a “sufficient, exceptional critical mass of evidence” to justify Zuabi’s disqualification. “They should all be booted into Syria,” Ben Ari added.

The extremists won that skirmish. Zuabi was forced to make her statement to the media far from the Supreme Court building, on a busy street. The tension on her face was clear to see as she gave interviews to local and foreign media. “We expected the security people to intervene,” MK Zahalka said, “but unfortunately they did not do their job. We decided to leave by a side door in order to prevent escalation. The Kahanists would not have dared attack her. I know them to be cowards from my student days at the Hebrew University, when they harassed Arab students in exactly the same way. I fear for her life because of the incitement on the Internet and on television, which is liable to push a madman to try to harm her. There are people with her all the time, but she doesn’t always accept it. That is one of our problems.”


refers to Michael Ben Ari who is not allowed to enter the US do to security concerns here

BTW where's your outrage at this? Oh and this from your comment
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shira (16,546 posts)
5. How? Zoabi believes all Israelis are occupiers deserving of what they get (terror).


She doesn't even have any Jewish friends...



how many Arab friends does Ben Ari have, oh wait that's different they apparently don't need Arabs to legitimize their positions, that you seem to feel Zuabi needs Jewish 'friends' to legitimize her says more than you might realize
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
10. I thought that the whole "Jewish friend" retort was weirdness incarnate
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:20 AM
Feb 2013

so I found it best to let said poster alone on that.

Flypaper perhaps?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. weirdness yes band not something I'd have thrown into the mix
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:57 AM
Feb 2013

at least on my own but I did feel it okay to turn that around and ask about certain Jewish Israeli politicians and ben Ari was mentioned in her link

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
13. You guys are sympathetic to Zoabi...
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:57 AM
Feb 2013

I don't claim anything of the sort WRT Ben Ari. In fact, I haven't seen anyone around these parts posting one article after the next defending Ben Ari as we see here WRT Zoabi.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. This 'guy' was pointing out what your article actually said
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 06:00 AM
Feb 2013

not either a defense or condemnation of Zuabi

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
17. wellspeaking of isms and support
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 06:54 AM
Feb 2013

it could appear that you did seem to support ben Ari's attack on Zuabi or what was your purpose in posting that link, to show how awful ben Ari's behavior was or the bad behavior all around, funny you did not mention anyone but Zuabi in your comment though, albeit I am sure it was an oversight on your part and then pointing out how Zuabi has no Jewish friends I found that interesting as well or were you simply showing us how polarized politics are in Israel?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
19. "You guys are sympathetic to Zoabi."
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:34 PM
Feb 2013

Shira, you have maligned my character in the past and continue to throw accusations around with no proof.

I would appreciate, in the future, that if you don't like an article you simply walk on by.

I was posting an article on a person who is a Knesset member.
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
21. I don't make much out of your imitation outrage.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 09:44 PM
Feb 2013

Israel continues to paint itself into a corner with this colonial nonsense, and unless it sees the writing on the wall BDS might become more of a reality than you care to admit or like.

Palestine may be able to bring criminal proceedings against Israel in the near future. BDS might become much more real than you ever imagined, and what will be Israel's response be then: take more land in a colonial tantrum?
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