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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:04 PM Feb 2013

Obama Is A 'Wretched Coward' And Israel Is A 'Lunatic State,' But Norman Finkelstein Is Still...

Obama Is A 'Wretched Coward' And Israel Is A 'Lunatic State,' But Norman Finkelstein Is Still Optimistic

"When President Obama sits in the White House ordering drone attacks in Yemen, what could be more wretched and cowardly than that?" asked Norman Finkelstein last night (7th Feb 2013).

Finkelstein was at the town hall in Leuven, Belgium. He was giving a talk about his latest book on what Mahatma Gandhi has to teach us about non-violent resistance and civil disobedience.

The comment was merely an aside in a longer response to a question from the audience about cowardice, but Finkelstein was passionate in his condemnation of the US president's drone policy: "He's running for president for the second term and he wants to show he's being tough, so his sends out his campaign manager to tell the New York Times that he [Obama] sits around with his baseball cards deciding who he's going to kill this week and next week.....I've no doubt in my mind that the perpetrator of violence - especially remote controlled violence - is the most wretched of all cowards on earth."

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In the case of the Palestinians, said Finkelstein, their goal "has to be what the public is prepared to accept as being legitimate." He pointed to the opinions of both the United Nations and the International Court of Justice (ICJ) as being representative of what the majority regard as a fair solution to the conflict: "a two state settlement along the June 1967 border and a just resolution on the [Palestinian] refugee issue. That is the limit."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/cathal-sheerin/obama-is-a-wretched-cowar_b_2644004.html
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Obama Is A 'Wretched Coward' And Israel Is A 'Lunatic State,' But Norman Finkelstein Is Still... (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2013 OP
Norman Finkelstein? oberliner Feb 2013 #1
I guess ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #2
It's "UK" Huffpo--gratuitious slams at North Americans and Oprah finish up the diatribe... MADem Feb 2013 #5
At least one person does... Purveyor Feb 2013 #6
Ha ha, you beat me to it. Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #8
Sometimes it's just too easy. Purveyor Feb 2013 #9
Anyone outside our happy little DU/IP family? oberliner Feb 2013 #10
Hard to say but considering this thread already has over 105+ views in 20 minutes, I'd say the Purveyor Feb 2013 #11
It does have a flashy headline oberliner Feb 2013 #12
Give her a break. She's just learning how to use the dictionary... R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #18
Your friend shira posts his opinions on BDS often enough, so yea. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #7
My friend? oberliner Feb 2013 #13
Yes..but your comment is duly noted. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #14
Cool oberliner Feb 2013 #16
No problem, I won't forget it. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #17
The major obstacle to achieving this, said Finkelstein, was Israel, backed by the US. Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #3
That guy from "Up In Smoke"? riqster Feb 2013 #4
Finkelstein, BDS and the destruction of Israel oberliner Feb 2013 #15

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. It's "UK" Huffpo--gratuitious slams at North Americans and Oprah finish up the diatribe...
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:19 PM
Feb 2013

I say this:

Consider The Source.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
6. At least one person does...
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:20 PM
Feb 2013

shira (16,556 posts)

1. Norm Finkelstein exposes hate-filled, dishonest BDS-holes for Israel's destruction

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113430567#post1

{{{chuckle}}}

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
11. Hard to say but considering this thread already has over 105+ views in 20 minutes, I'd say the
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:28 PM
Feb 2013

readership is pretty decent.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. It does have a flashy headline
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:32 PM
Feb 2013

I wonder how many of the 105+ even know who Norman is.

In any case, thanks for all the posts today - good to be able to exchange comments during this blizzard.

Hope you are safe wherever you are.

And same to any of the 105 who may be reading this.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. The major obstacle to achieving this, said Finkelstein, was Israel, backed by the US.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:18 PM
Feb 2013

"According to the ICJ," he said, "Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem are all occupied Palestinian territory." He pointed to the West Bank separation barrier (constructed by Israel but condemned as illegally built on occupied Palestinian territory by the UN, the EU and numerous human rights organizations) as an example of where the "whole world is on one side and Israel, the US and the South Sea islands are on the other."

It was now widely recognised by the public, Finkelstein said, that "Israel refuses to obey international law."

* Nothing controversial about that, just the way it is.


K&R

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. Finkelstein, BDS and the destruction of Israel
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:50 PM
Feb 2013

Chicago, IL - In a recent and highly controversial interview, Norman Finkelstein, long a scourge of Israel, turned his guns on Palestinians and their supporters. He accused the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement of being a "cult", and claimed that its achievements were mostly exaggerated.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/02/2012227111759385177.html

Ali and Norman need to have a YouTube debate or something.

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