(AND argue that his support of the accords means that he accepts all the settlements allowed in the accords, which isn't something you can assume he accepts), then you can't post links calling him "virulently anti-Israel".

If you back the Geneva Accords, you accept Israel's existence, therefore you are "pro-Israel".

Agreed?

http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/an-interview-with-prof-norman-finkelstein/

The salient quote is here:

Q(interviewer): Do you feel the Geneva Accord offers a good basis for a final settlement?

A(Finklestein): It’s something, but the fundamental basis of any settlement must be UN Resolution 242 and subsequent UN resolutions calling for full Israeli withdrawal, the dismantling of the settlements and a resolution of the refugee question based on 194.

And in this, it is made clear that Finklestein does support a two-state solution, therefore making it unfair to call him "anti-Israel".

http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2012/02/23/norman-finkelstein-supports-israels-existence/

is to distract from the young college student's eloquent defense of the Israeli way of life. Her assertion that the Palestinians need to be taught a lesson comes from the heart, and what is more pure than feelings for Israel; especially when these ungrateful Palestinians and their supporters stir up so much ruckus?

You're introduction of facts into an otherwise light affair is both ungentlemanly and the act of an outright cad.

it's a little weird to see professional hasbaristas like Ms. Goldberg are bringing it back from its well-mocked first death, but I suppose it's well in keeping with what can be expected from such people. But it's still like reading dispatches from the dark side of an alternate universe.. any notions of "reality" are not just turned upside-down, but also rambunctiously cuddled sideways with a garden trowel.

It's not the author. The Palestinian buses aren't SbE either.

It sounds like you are dredging up a term with racist connotations to plaster on unrelated issues in order to smear them.

Lets try this. What is it exactly about the bus thing that you find so racist?

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Do you even read the entire article before you post a snippit?

You see everybody, those uppity and ungrateful Palestinians need to be taught a lesson...in gratitude no less. We've heard those words in America not so long ago as the older generations, my generation, hasn't forgot the connotations and bigotry associated with them.

I would bet that the Palestinians are smart enough to know what situation that they're in and don't need to be told who to thank for it.

Many a white Southerner felt the same way about the "Negra Folk" who owed them respect while they were told that they had to move from the lunch counters, move to the back of the bus, drink from different fountains than whites and accept it with gratitude.

This shit is right out of Jim Crow.


On edit: What the Palestinians need are a million Rosa Parks. The unfortunate truth is that if she were to exist today there and challenge the system she might wind in indefinite detention for a few years.

Kicked out of the BDS talk for "shuffling pamphlets" too loudly.

Those affected are very thankful for them.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-buses-draw-peace-camp-ire-but-get-nod-from-riders/

The Propagandists and Jew-baiters are the ones throwing feces at the wall, hoping some of their baseless slander WRT racism, segregation, and apartheid stick.

My bet is that the vast majority of Palestinians actually affected by these new buses are very grateful for this. Their fellow Palestinians and zealoted "friends" out there who are unaffected & who live to defame Jews couldn't care less about their welfare.

haven't we been told that these buses are privately owned?

Palestinians love these new segregated buses but yet the title is

A Palestinian insult to Rosa Parks

so how if Palestinians are not the ones complaining is it a Palestinian insult?

seems talking out of both sides at once?

Palestinians can still use buses Israelis use. By law they cannot be refused.

What's difficult about this?

Can't admit the charge is complete bullshit, can you?

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As to the article, I assume the writer is talking about the PA, the ISM, and other Palestinian groups doing their cognitive warfare thing.

of the same thing that work it from both sides is not very convincing at all

You're unable to articulate why and justify your position.

Weak.

one blames Palestinians in it's title butt not content and the other claims Palestinians love SbE

"Just because" isn't good enough.

if you need it explained then I do not know what can convince you, as it seems others here already know

up next from shira: IOW you've got nothing or something

loved having all those separate amenities as well. Separate drinking fountains, places to eat, places to live, separate entrances...the list goes on.

Te Palestinians need a few Rosa Parks, that's for sure, but the Israelis also need a few less Governor Wallaces.

But tell us again how the Palestinians insult Rosa Parks?

Or

This shit is still indefensible.

Replace the words Palestinians with Jews and anybody could see that this is vile.



Start screaming racism any time you like, little top.

According to the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, a total of more than 6500 Palestinians were killed by Israelis in the West Bank and Gaza Strip during the period 2000-2012. See, http://old.btselem.org/statistics/english/Casualties.asp (table reproduced, below)

Now, Compare that to the number of blacks killed by whites in the US: about 800 in 2005. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/09/AR2007080901964.html Assuming that half of those homicides occurred in the South, and that the rate was constant*, that would mean that during a dozen years period of time about 5000 African Americans were killed by Whites in the South from 1950-1962.

BTW: For cross-comparison sake, the number of lynchings in the US during the period 1950-62: seven. http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingyear.html

The number of Palestinian civilians killed by Israeli civilians during the 12 year period ending 2012: 96.

(* The US homicide rate actually increased since the mid-1950s from 4.1 per 100,000 to 5.9 in 2005, see, http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0873729.html )

Indeed, it's an invidious comparison, Shira.