This goes completely against the media's framing of the Israel/Palestine conflict.

It's clearly a matter of priorities!

that little detail

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Hamas takes hold of Kerem Shalom

Hamas will take control over one of the most important crossings connecting Israel and the Gaza Strip:

The organization's government in Gaza has notified Nahed Shuhaiber, the concessionaire who operates the Kerem Shalom crossing from the Palestinian side, that his responsibilities are being rescinded and that starting Monday morning, the new concessionaire will be Muhisan Sharafi. Monday morning, 70 trucks stood at the crossing waiting to bring goods into the Strip.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4351912,00.html

but I'm sure you would like us to think that ?

b etween Israel and Hamas? not a surprise at all really

But on Monday, Hamas asked the Palestinian company, which transports the goods from Kerem Shalom into Gaza, not to show up at the crossing, according to Israeli security sources. The company complied.

According to the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT), it is the first time that Hamas has closed the crossing for this reason.

Technically, Israel and the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah jointly operate the crossing, and make all formal decisions with respect to the passageway through separate land crossing authorities; this includes choosing a trucking company to transport goods in and out of the sterile area at Kerem Shalom.

According to Israeli security sources Hamas has unsuccessfully tried to exact a higher tax fee from the contractor, who to date has refused to cede to that demand.

Israeli security sources added that Hamas is trying to replace the Palestinian contractor with one that will be under their control and pay a higher fee.

The PA chose the trucking company that now operates at the crossing.

Hamas wants to make up for revenues it has lost now that Egypt is closing the tunnels for smuggled goods into Gaza, Israeli security sources said.

According to COGAT, “Hamas has been actively trying to push the Palestinian Authority out and take charge of the management of Kerem Shalom, so that they may collect revenue from goods that enter Gaza.” It warned that Hamas’s actions endangered the crossing’s security and operation.

Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories Maj.- Gen. Eitan Dangot spoke Monday morning with senior PA officials and explained to them that the situation was not viable.

PA Civil Affairs Minister Hussein a- Sheikh said the civil society in Gaza also intervened in the situation to help ensure that the crossing would open on Tuesday.

The issue, he said, is one of control.

Hamas wants to use a trucking company that it can influence and would be accountable to it rather than an independent private company, Sheikh said.

But, he said, it was the PA which had the ultimate say here. “We will not bow down to Hamas,” he added.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=305354

as always it speaks volumes, myself I blame both Israel and Hamas as both are at fault

Never is Hamas solely to blame.

For anything.

Hamas can be 100% to blame for something and you'll find some way to implicate Israel.

It's your M.O.

Refugee conditions?
You blame refugee conditions outside of Israel on Israel b/c it's their fault the refugees are still there 65 years later.

Gay & Women's Rights?
That's the occupation.

And on and on....

so explain in detail how the occupation helps Gay and Womens rights in the Occupied territories?

and remember it is you who equates the PLO/PA/Hamas (like lions and tigers and bears) as being the same

but at least you wriggled out of it

...treats gays and women there?

It's Hamas trying to squeeze its 110% tax out of a trucking company more than anything else?

is so freeking touching. I'm sure all the Palestinians who are not getting the aid AFTER HAMAS BLOCKED ACCESS are just thrilled right along side you.

flow with commonly held beliefs, it was quite common, right after the turn of the century, your accusation is quite baseless and speaks more of yourself than it does me

also were you this concerned a few days prior when it was Israel that refused to allow the transfer of humanitarian aidthat you are now oh so concerned is truly something

the Gazans are getting what they voted for - I have no control over that. But for someone who has taken on this cause, your support for this terrorist organization is indeed puzzling.

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as I said reminds me of earlier times when people were commonly accused of this or that by pointing out inconvenient facts

but it seems your sole purpose here is to attack as it seems you blame the people of Gaza with this quote

anything else to say ?

KICK.

that occasionally needs my attention. Is that okay with you? How awful of me to not make an anonymous poster my highest priority.

I have no idea where you get your misinformation from.

hamas not being voted in. It makes you look foolish.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/26/AR2006012600372.html

from your link

and the people gave hamas the most seats in parliament and you claim it's a coup. I don't see demonstrations against it, I don't see the UN opening their useless traps about it. It's perfectly okay because so many on the left are with the delusion that there is nothing the people can do. They can start demonstrating for free and fair election, denouncing hamas for the murderous thugs they are but no, after over 6 years, they sit back, along with the UN and those on the left who expect nothing from the Palestinians.

because that is an accurate comparison, Hamas came to rule Gaza via a coup not elections

tell what would you have the Palestinians do, are you one of those who seem to expect what anyone paying attention would know to a bloody civil war?

and were elected by their constituents to do so...I don't throw up my hands and call it a coup which is what you did. Hamas was elected and you can whine to someone else who doesn't understand elections. What do I expect from the people there? I expect speaking out, I expect demonstrations and more than all of that...I EXPECT ELECTIONS. Where the fuck is the UN on that?

Hamas takes control of Gaza

Hamas fighters today basked in triumph after taking complete control in Gaza as the west scrambled for a response to the arrival of Islamist power on Israel's doorstep.

In a stark demonstration of the new facts on the ground, a masked Hamas fighter sat down at the desk of the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, and declared an end to the western-backed authority in the Gaza strip.

In an imaginary telephone call to the US, a fighter from the Islamist movement's armed wing, Izz el-Deen al-Qassam, joked: "Hello Condoleezza Rice. You have to deal with me now, there is no Abu Mazen anymore."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/15/israel4

They were elected into power and did everything they could to preempt a Fatah/US coup.

From Vanity Fair:

Wurmser accuses the Bush administration of “engaging in a dirty war in an effort to provide a corrupt dictatorship [led by Abbas] with victory.” He believes that Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza until Fatah forced its hand. “It looks to me that what happened wasn’t so much a coup by Hamas but an attempted coup by Fatah that was pre-empted before it could happen,” Wurmser says.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804

or rewriting history will change that period

but as with the poster you seemingly support do you also support this?

Fatah and the US didn't attempt to pull off a coup. Not when the PA - due to Oslo - was already assigned security, law/order, and rule there. Hamas took over Gaza in a coup as Hamas was never meant to control/rule or be in charge of law/order or security in Gaza.

Now if someone wants to argue Hamas militants were too powerful at the time and Fatah wanted to put them in their place (which was their duty) then that's another story altogether. Without Israel in the W.Bank, Hamas would've taken that over via a coup. They'll do so as soon as Israel gets out but it's up to Fatah to prevent that (and if they did, that wouldn't be considered a coup either).

And now trying to say differently is really foolish ( as NYC said) .

And after election they still remained a rogue terrorist organization leading a breakaway territory .

elected as the sole power in the US .

You really don't understand how Palestinian elections work.

Hint: They aren't like US elections.

both the West Bank and Gaza Hamas took a majority number of seats in the Palestinian Parliament to claim this means anything but the obvious is disingenuous at best

They won the most seats the prior year IN AN ELECTION. The last line of the article linked:

The civil war is rooted in a long-standing power struggle between Hamas, which won elections last year, and Fatah, the historic core of the PLO.

So - where are all the Palestinian supporters in the region? The ones who try and deter their own populations from their own problems to scream about how the Israeli's are "genociding" the Palestinians? Do they support what hamas has done and continues to do? Cuz I sure haven't heard one word from 1. the people who live there who should be in the streets every single day demonstrating (if they are truly against hamas which is what you seem to be claiming and 2. from the neighbors who scream to the world how awful it is for the Palestinians. Why haven't new elections been called?

protest against Hamas, unless they want to be arrested, beaten or killed.

"Hamas has banned protests, including any demonstrations calling for an end to divisions between it and Fatah."

From: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/us-palestinians-hamas-death-idUSBRE88P0RI20120926

me that hamas is nothing more than a bunch of disgusting thugs, yet plenty of people here pat the Palestinians on the head and tell them don't negotiate with Israel, hamas has their better interests at heart. Disgusting.

As far as demonstrations, civil disobedience is a time honored way to let the world know how you feel about something. Plenty of actual freedom fighters risk jail every single day. Where are the speakers from other country's railing against hamas? How about the Fatah pals in the West Bank - are they of any help? Have they had an election? No - but nobody says boo about that either. It's all Israel's fault - everything that is wrong has nothing to do with giving a terrorist group say in government, nothing to do with the fact that all they get is talk from their neighbors.

Over 70 trucks laden with food and other goods are currently waiting on the Israeli side of the Kerem Shalom crossing for their Palestinian counterparts.

The crossing is currently not operating, as the Palestinian contractor responsible for the Palestinian side decided not to open the crossing today.

His decision stems from attempts by Hamas to replace the current contractor with one of their choosing. Hamas has been actively trying to push the Palestinian Authority out and take charge of the management of Kerem Shalom so that they may collect revenue from goods that enter Gaza.

These actions by Hamas endanger the current security arrangements and threaten the operability of the crossing.

The Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories, Major General Eitan Dangot, spoke this morning with senior officials in the Palestinian Authority to keep them informed of the unfolding events and to emphasize that Israel cannot allow the operation of the crossing under such circumstances given the security risks.

Kerem Shalom Crossing is the primary commercial goods crossing into the Gaza Strip, and therefore serves a vital function for the civilian population in Gaza. It is located on the southern border between Israel and Gaza and an average of 300 trucks carrying food and other essentials transfer there every day. The crossing has been the site of numerous terror attacks in the past that have forced the crossing to close temporarily, today's events however are the first time that Hamas has closed Kerem Shalom in this manner.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/HumanitarianAid/Palestinians/Hamas_closes_Kerem_Shalom_crossing_4-Mar-2013.htm

or are we not supposed to to think of that and BTW an Israeli government site is hardly convincing

GAZA CITY (Ma'an) -- The Hamas government in Gaza closed the Kerem Shalom crossing on Monday, despite the fact Israel had agreed to reopen it after a one week closure.

http://maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=571269

build the post count any way you wish

With a Jew hating , women hating , gay hating terrorist organization ?

freedom fighters in action. I suppose half-starved people make better human shields.

who all the supposed pro Palestinians insist is good for Gaza are blocking aid. I'm sure they'll ignore this and find some way to blame Israel. And then they wonder why this "cause" doesn't get more support. Keep wondering.

As well as excuse Hamas.

feet and rail against those on the left who simply don't hate Israel. Shrug.