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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:38 PM Mar 2013

Palestinian Christians Protest Israeli Permit Regime During Palm Sunday Procession

Whether during Ramadan or Easter, every year, Palestinians with West Bank IDs face challenges entering Jerusalem for religious worship. Despite claims by Israeli authorities of granting more permits and relaxing restrictions, each year thousands of worshipers are denied entry.

This Easter season, early reports indicate that Palestinian Christian communities from the northern West Bank had to cancel their Palm Sunday celebrations in Jerusalem due to a lack of permits. Parishes from the Bethlehem and Ramallah areas received between 30% and 40% of the permits they requested.

One individual from the Bethlehem area lamented that while he was granted entry, the rest of his family was turned away at the checkpoint. Such arbitrary policies are typical with Israel’s permitting system, which rarely provides a coherent rationale for who is granted and who is denied, other the than the catch-all excuse of “security reasons”.

PLO official Hanan Ashrawi was quoted as saying:



There should not even be a question of needing permits to visit one’s own city…. East Jerusalem is the occupied capital of the Palestinian people and freedom of worship is a basic human right for all of our Christian and Muslim citizens; a right which is being systematically and increasingly denied by a foreign occupying force. The fact that so many Palestinian Christian communities are denied their simple human right to worship freely in their own capital city is unacceptable.


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Palestinian Christians Protest Israeli Permit Regime During Palm Sunday Procession (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2013 OP
Anything goes to keep them down and marginalized. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #1
You got it wrong, King_David Mar 2013 #12
Save your translation for someone who needs it. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #14
so where are the US Christians on this? azurnoir Mar 2013 #2
This whole article is a lie (note, there is no author credited) oberliner Mar 2013 #3
So go sniveling to the 'hosts' and see if you can get this thread 'locked' too. eom Purveyor Mar 2013 #4
I don't do that sort of thing oberliner Mar 2013 #7
your article is entirely hidden behind a paywall edited but this much is apparent azurnoir Mar 2013 #5
My article? oberliner Mar 2013 #8
It is not a lie, nice how you snipped only that piece of the OP. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #6
Yes it is oberliner Mar 2013 #9
The deception is all yours, as the snip with an * highlights. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #10
No deception oberliner Mar 2013 #11
You own the deception, it's yours, oberliner. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #13
There wasn't any oberliner Mar 2013 #15
Only if you're incapable of basic bath. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #16

King_David

(14,851 posts)
12. You got it wrong,
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:20 PM
Mar 2013

Anything goes to prevent suicide bomber such as " The Passover Massacre"

Which happened over Pesach or if you need a translation "Passover ".

That's a good reason...

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
14. Save your translation for someone who needs it.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:44 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Good to know you support as you say, anything goes...

Collective punishment.

on edit to add: List of Topics
Accountability

Background
Military Police investigations
Failure to investigate alleged cases of torture
Denial of compensation

Administrative punishment

Administrative detention
House demolitions as punishment
Deportation

Demonstrations

Israeli law
International law
Military law
Demonstrations in Budrus
Demonstrations in Bil'in
Demonstrations in Ni'lin
Demonstrations in a-Nabi Saleh
Demonstrations in Bethlehem district

Destruction of property

Demolition of houses as punishment
Demolition for alleged military purposes
Planning and building

Detainees and prisoners

Administrative detention
Minors in Detention
Torture
Statistics

East Jerusalem

Background
Legal Status
The Separation Barrier in Jerusalem
Family unification and child registration
Revocation of residency
Revocation of social rights
Planning, building and expropriation of land
Neglect of infrastructure and services

Gaza Strip

Background
The scope of Israeli control
Operation Cast Lead
Firing Qassam Rockets
The siege on Gaza
Rafah Crossing
Medical System
Inter-Palestinian clashes
Gilad Shalit

Hebron

Background

International Law

Background
International human rights law
International humanitarian law (Laws of war)

Jordan Valley

Background
Land
Water
Other resources

Land and water

Land expropriation and settlements
The water crisis
The Jordan Valley

Residency rights and deportation

Family separation
Deportation
Revocation of residency of Palestinians in East Jerusalem

Restrictions on movement

Background
Closure
Checkpoints and Forbidden Roads
Curfew
Effect on the economy
Medical treatment

Separation Barrier

Background
Opinion of the International Court of Justice
Israeli High Court of Justice ruling
Jerusalem

Settlements and Israeli civilians

Land expropriation and settlements
Attacks on Israeli civilians by Palestinians
Settler violence
East Jerusalem

South Hebron Hills

South Hebron Hills
Background on the South Hebron Hills
Khirbet Susiya
Firing Zone 918
Khirbet a-Duqaiqah
Khirbet Zanutah
Barrier along Route 317

Use of force

Beating and abuse
Use of firearms
Human shields

Violations by Palestinians

Severe human rights violations in intra-Palestinian clashes
Attacks on Israeli civilians by Palestinians
Harm to Palestinians suspected of collaborating with Israel
Death penalty in the Palestinian Authority and under Hamas in Gaza

Workers from the territories

Background
Social rights

http://www.btselem.org/list_of_topics

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
2. so where are the US Christians on this?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:18 PM
Mar 2013

are they protesting their fellow Christians not being allowed to worship in Jerusalem or is more like they're Arabs first for these folks?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. This whole article is a lie (note, there is no author credited)
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:18 PM
Mar 2013

The office of the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories, however, said it rejected, on security grounds, only 192 of the 19,000 requests it received.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/palestinians-add-national-meaning-to-palm-sunday-in-jerusalem.premium-1.511736

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. your article is entirely hidden behind a paywall edited but this much is apparent
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:30 PM
Mar 2013

the author is named in the credits it is Amira Hass but there is no way of checking for the veracity of anything else something I'm sure you did not realize

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
6. It is not a lie, nice how you snipped only that piece of the OP.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:54 PM
Mar 2013

*According to the PLO officials, in many communities only half the requests by some of the 50,000 Palestinian Christians were approved, at most.

And Israel always pulls the same bullshit reason, security.

You would think of this OP as a lie.

Disgusting: One banner, which caused Hebrew and Arab speakers to smile sadly, was a large replica of an entrance permit ostensibly issued by the Civil Administration that read: "The purpose of the permit: Christian holiday. Valid: March 19-May 11. Name: The Palestinian People. ID number: 1948."


on edit for clarity.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Yes it is
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 05:55 AM
Mar 2013

And I'm glad you were able to read the article - are you paying for premium or is it not actually behind a paywall?

Your bolded section doesn't really contradict the fact that the article has inaccurate information.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. The deception is all yours, as the snip with an * highlights.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 01:30 PM
Mar 2013

In bold is the clear depiction of yet another foul aspect of the occupation perpetuated
by Israeli policy.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. No deception
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:18 PM
Mar 2013

It is the paragraph from the article that shows that original OP has incorrect information.

Anyone can read the rest of the article at the link which I also provided.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
13. You own the deception, it's yours, oberliner.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:41 PM
Mar 2013

192 denied of 19,000 when over 50, 000 are the whole. You left that out.

*According to the PLO officials, in many communities only half the requests by some of the 50,000 Palestinian Christians were approved, at most.



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. There wasn't any
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 04:56 AM
Mar 2013

The article made a claim - another source showed the claim to be false. That's it.

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