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delrem

(9,688 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:04 PM Oct 2013

meta: how is "on topic" defined for an OP in I/P?

I've hesitated to post OPs in I/P because I don't know.

Are OPs forced to be currently dated news items?
Did I break a rule in posting the above OP asking that basic question?

eta: how can a press release by peacenow, explaining their argument w.r.t. I/P, not be "news"?

I don't want an argument. Just an explanation telling me what I can and can't post.

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meta: how is "on topic" defined for an OP in I/P? (Original Post) delrem Oct 2013 OP
I'm not sure there's actually a set standard Scootaloo Oct 2013 #1
see my update. delrem Oct 2013 #2
Well, Purveyor's got locked as well Scootaloo Oct 2013 #4
But press releases are how organizations like peacenow create the "news"! delrem Oct 2013 #6
It's a decent question Scootaloo Oct 2013 #7
I can understand that reason. delrem Oct 2013 #8
eMail Lithos is best nt King_David Oct 2013 #23
If as you claim you have everyone on ignore , King_David Oct 2013 #3
Well, there are those of us who are presumably not on ignore, David Scootaloo Oct 2013 #5
Ahh , but how can you tell? Is there a way ? King_David Oct 2013 #20
You won't get a direct answer. It's easier to just make it up as it goes along. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #9
Yes. That's the best answer so far. delrem Oct 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #11
Answer is pinned to the top of this forum oberliner Oct 2013 #12
"for reference only" delrem Oct 2013 #14
Good idea to reference it oberliner Oct 2013 #15
So "Old I/P guidelines (for reference)" should be titled "I/P guidelines". Period. delrem Oct 2013 #16
Guidelines for reference oberliner Oct 2013 #18
What is your point in continuing this? delrem Oct 2013 #19
Kick King_David Oct 2013 #21
To promote reading and following the guidelines of the pinned post oberliner Oct 2013 #22
'I have the entire hasbara on ignore' King_David Oct 2013 #24
I post here for: bemildred Oct 2013 #13
I consider my "meta" question answered in full. Thank you all. delrem Oct 2013 #17
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. I'm not sure there's actually a set standard
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:08 PM
Oct 2013

Mostly it seems to be "stories and posts of whatever seems vaguely relevant to Israel or to Palestine somehow."

Thus talk about the conflict, about beauty queens, about the Sinai, you know, just talk, no big whup.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. Well, Purveyor's got locked as well
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:12 PM
Oct 2013

Apparently press releases aren't acceptable, says Lithos. So... there's that, i guess.

I imagine including it as a part of a thread, rather than the OP of a thread would probably work? :shrug"

delrem

(9,688 posts)
6. But press releases are how organizations like peacenow create the "news"!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:15 PM
Oct 2013

I've been involved in enough political campaigns to know that press releases are just that, press (aka news) releases, in unedited and the most direct and therefore faithful to the original meaning (being the origin).

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. It's a decent question
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:17 PM
Oct 2013

I think it's to avoid having the group look like it's sponsoring particular organizations or whatever? Though, given how often holes like Gatestone Institute get cited here, I don't think there's much harm there...

Maybe Lithos will chime in.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
8. I can understand that reason.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:25 PM
Oct 2013

I'm most concerned about my ability to post OPs using material from several years ago, in raw form. That is, not as reviewed by Haaretz or whatever, but direct from the source Haaretz would refer to.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
9. You won't get a direct answer. It's easier to just make it up as it goes along.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:29 PM
Oct 2013

Besides, why would you expect the rules to be clear when the rules can shift without warning?

Response to delrem (Reply #10)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Answer is pinned to the top of this forum
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:24 AM
Oct 2013

Proper subject matter:

New Threads

New threads must be based on a recently-published news item or op-ed piece. They may not be based on editorial cartoons or photographs. Citations and references should include a link to the original source. Exceptions will be allowed if, based on prior approval, the moderators feel a thread is appropriate.

All threads must be based on material originally published no more than 3 weeks ago. The "clock" does not restart if an article is republished. Exceptions will be allowed, if based on prior approval, the moderators feel a thread is appropriate.

The subject heading for threads must contain the title of the source article. The only exception is when you must shorten long titles or to make the subject of the article more clear.

Editorializations and comments are to be saved for the Message body and must be separate and distinct from the text of the article.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134287

delrem

(9,688 posts)
16. So "Old I/P guidelines (for reference)" should be titled "I/P guidelines". Period.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:26 PM
Oct 2013

By the way, I have "referenced it", many times.

old
əʊld/Submit
adjective
1. having lived for a long time; no longer young.
"the old man lay propped up on cushions"
....
2.
belonging to the past; former.


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Guidelines for reference
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:50 PM
Oct 2013

Should at least give you a rough idea. Not sure why you remain so confused.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. To promote reading and following the guidelines of the pinned post
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:53 AM
Oct 2013

I mean it's pinned there for a reason, isn't it?

It seems like most of the folks who post here on a regular basis do tend to follow them or at least use them as a general reference, as you indicated.

Why not do the same?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
13. I post here for:
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:29 AM
Oct 2013

1.) the low noise level
2.) the views of certain of the other LTP (long term posters) here.

As near as I can tell anything to do with Jews, Palestinians, or Israel/Palestine is OK, but you don't have to post it down here unless you want to anymore.

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