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shira

(30,109 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 09:18 AM Feb 2012

One-State Vision; a Republic of All of its Citizens.

One-State Vision; a Republic of All of its Citizens.

by Sami Jamil Jadallah

A State of ALL its Citizens: The One-State Vision and Foundational Principles of a Republic in Historic Palestine


Preamble
I. We, the undersigned, Palestinians and Israelis, believe that the historic land of Palestine should be shared by all those who now live in it and its natives who have been expelled or exiled from it since 1948, and their descendants, regardless of religion, ethnicity, national origin or current citizenship status. Cognizant of the great changes in the Middle East including the recent Arab uprisings, we conceive of our movement as part of the drive towards democracy, accountability, transparency, equality and economic and social justice in the region. We intend to build a model state in the region, rooted in equal citizenship, popular democracy and institutional justice.

II. We, Palestinians and Israelis, united and enriched in our diversity, fully recognize the historic injustices inflicted on the indigenous Palestinian population, including the ethnic cleansing of the 1948 Nakba; support all those who are working to build a democratic, pluralistic, secular state (based on the separation of religion and state), that encompasses all of historic Palestine (currently the political entities of the State of Israel and the post-1967 Israeli-occupied Palestinian Territories); and honor all those who suffered for justice, equality and freedom in our land.

III. We reject the tragic 1947 UN Partition Plan, dividing the country into two entities, and the terrible damage it has wrought on the country; this Resolution was used by the Zionist leadership as an excuse for the forced expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians from their homes in the Nakba of 1948. Since then Israel has prevented the refugees from returning to their homes, and the international community has failed to enable their return.

IV. We recognize that for decades efforts to bring about a two-state solution based on a partition of the land of Palestine into a Palestinian entity in 22 percent of historic Palestine, and an Israeli one in 78 percent, have failed because they fell short of providing elementary justice. Based on a policy of separation, fragmentation and inequality, the two-state solution ignores the physical and political realities on the ground, and presumes a false symmetry of power and moral claims between an indigenous, colonized and occupied people on the one hand, and a colonizing state and military occupier on the other. Indeed, ever since 1967, Israel has acted to make a two-state solution impossible by a range of illegal activities, chiefly the building of illegal settlements, confiscation of land, brutal repression of the Palestinian population, and the building of the Apartheid Wall. Moreover, Israel’s ongoing systematic discrimination against Palestinians, which includes practices such as forced transfer, settler-colonialism of the areas occupied in 1967, as well as in areas of Palestine after 1948, segregation, ghettoisation, and the separation wall (declared illegal by the International Court of Justice in 2004), denial of citizenship and basic human rights and freedoms, is consistent with the crime of Apartheid as defined by the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid; http://untreaty.un.org/cod/avl/ha/cspca/cspca.html) and the 2002 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

cont'd...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/22/one-state-vision-a-republic-of-all-of-its-citizens/


Now who could possibly be against this?



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aranthus

(3,385 posts)
1. The question is who would be for it?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 12:13 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Sat Feb 25, 2012, 03:43 PM - Edit history (1)

Let's be clear. This is not intended for the hardcore anti-Israel crowd. It's intended for the people that Lenin dubbed, "useful idiots." Also, it seems to show that the Arab position hasn't changed in over 60 years. It just gets re-packaged in ever slicker wrapping for new generations of the foolish.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
5. I think the question is, how realistic is this option?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:51 PM
Feb 2012

1. Maybe 10% of Palestinians, at most, are for one secular democratic state. Something like 1-2% of Israelis, at most, are for it. Why push this on a population that clearly doesn't want it?

2. How will fully equal rights be guaranteed? There's no nation on earth free of discrimination. So the goal is Utopia. How realistic is that?

3. Related to the point above, who will ensure these equal rights are guaranteed and that the nation remains a secular democracy? Leftists aren't concerned in the least with Palestinian rights under Hamas/PA rule, so why would the Left be concerned with how Jews would be treated under majority Arab rule? Even better, the Left still supports the Arab Spring, despite the results and they believe it's a good thing for all Arabs of the mideast. If Muslim Brotherhood theocratic rule is good to the Left, based on popular revolution, then it seems obvious the Left wouldn't do anything to ensure one state remains secular and democratic with equal rights for all.

4. Last, it seems to me that the Left believes the PA already rules in a secular democratic West Bank. Is that really what they have in mind for one state? Have they really thought this out? Or are they in lock-step with the Arab position from 60 years ago, attempting very disingenuously to put lipstick on a pig?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
2. wouldn't anyone agreeing with this OP be
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 03:37 PM
Feb 2012

by 'extension' advocating for the destruction of Israel? something that we are told here is against DU's ToS?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11345397#post3

considering that why would you post such an OP?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
4. Depends. Norm Finkelstein would say that anyone agreeing with the OP, but denying...
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:38 PM
Feb 2012

...they're for Israel's destruction is being dishonest.

Do you agree or disagree?

Now I don't see the problem WRT your particular view. You've stated recently you're for 2 states. So why would you also agree with the OP? Seems contradictory...

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. exactly where did I say I agreed with the OP?
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 02:33 AM
Feb 2012

I asked why would you post such a thing considering the ToS? you answer by making false allegations ?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
11. I didn't say you agreed with the OP...
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:32 AM
Feb 2012

...as I can't recall you ever clearly advocating the BDS agenda.

I do know you're for right of return, as you mocked my position that only the original refugees should have that right. In addition, each time I've brought up the situation for Palestinian refugees outside of the 1948 lines - how they should be integrated into their societies - you take offense to that notion. You believe refugees should remain outsiders who are discriminated against in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Egypt, etc. I can only assume you believe that b/c you think that collectively they're much better off waiting for a future right of return.

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
6. 'Who could possibly be against this?'
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:53 PM
Feb 2012

(1) Most Israelis.

(2) Most Palestinians.

And that is why it won't happen, at least for a long time.

Crunchy Frog

(26,630 posts)
7. I don't find much there that I disagree with.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 01:39 AM
Feb 2012

I don't think that there's any other country in the world for which advocating that it be for all its citizens without discrimination on the basis of ethnicity or religion would be considered a bannable offense. In fact, advocating the opposite would likely get you banned.

And yes, I do think that Israel should be a state of and for its citizens without respect to ethnic or religious background. As for the OT, they should either get the fuck out with their settlers, or else just annex it and grant equal citizenship to all people living in the area.

And yes, I know that some people regard that as "advocating for the destruction of Israel". I don't buy that myself. A different kind of Israel, but still an Israel.

So maybe you can get me banned for this post.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
10. It's the full right of return which is a call for the destruction of Israel
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:29 AM
Feb 2012

No one has a problem with Israel or any other nation on the planet being free of discrimination, starting today.

The problem is calling for such after full right of return. Israelis and Palestinians don't want a secular democratic one state solution. No one will give guarantees that it would remain a real secular democratic state (presumably with liberal values, free speech, gay rights, etc). How would such a state get along with all the authoritarian, theocratic regimes surrounding Israel when they hate liberal western values? This nation would be in a state of war against its neighbors from the very start. Also, the people advocating for this one state aren't concerned in the least with the human rights situation for Palestinians in the OPT or Lebanon (any discrimination against Palestinians beyond Israel's control) so what makes you think these advocates are serious about a discrimination free Israel?

Tell you what - let's see some other nation in the world today become completely free of discrimination before trying this experiment on Israel, okay? When advocates for this position are successful in making their societies discrimination free, then they can start making this a reality in Israel as well. Until then, we all know damned well this is all nothing but bullshit.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
8. I'm not impressed by this particular one-state manifesto.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 01:57 AM
Feb 2012

Somehow, (it might be just me) I get the message “blame the Jews” when I try to read between the lines.

However, the one-state scenario is firmly on the horizon, and this could be seen as an attempt to control the development in that direction by writing down a wish list of sorts.

I think we will see more attempts to explain a possible future in the one-state context, both how to achieve it as well as how to avoid it.

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