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King_David

(14,851 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:16 PM Jan 2014

SodaStream Boss Admits West Bank Plant Is 'a Pain' — Praises Scarlett Johansson

MISHOR ADUMIM, WEST BANK — If he could turn back the clock, SodaStream CEO Daniel Birnbaum would “never” have established a production plant on an Israeli Jewish settlement in the occupied West Bank. In fact, he said, its location has turned out to be “a pain in the ass.”
“We’re here because we’re here — for historical reasons,” Birnbaum told the Forward in an exclusive interview Tuesday, when asked about the public row that has erupted over the controversial location of his company’s main facility.
The decision to locate SodaStream’s now contentious plant in this industrial park within the boundaries of the West Bank settlement Ma’ale Adumim, about 10 minutes outside of Jerusalem, did in fact predate Birnbaum’s arrival. It was a choice made by company founder Peter Weissburgh, back in the 1990’s, long before SodaStream was taken over by the Fortismo Capital Fund, it current owners, who appointed Birnbaum to head the firm in 2007.
But though he wouldn’t have opened the factory at its current site, Birnbaum said that its presence here is now a reality, and he won’t bow to political pressure to close it — even though the company is about to open a huge new plant in the Negev, within Israel’s internationally-recognized boundaries, which will replicate all functions of the West Bank plant, and dwarf it.


Read more: http://forward.com/articles/191757/sodastream-boss-admits-west-bank-plant-is-a-pain/?p=all#ixzz2s094LbNF

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SodaStream Boss Admits West Bank Plant Is 'a Pain' — Praises Scarlett Johansson (Original Post) King_David Jan 2014 OP
Scarlett Johansson is Jewish King_David Jan 2014 #1
What do they love about the story? Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #2
Exactly, King_David Feb 2014 #7
Uh, no..that's not what I meant. What I asked you was, what do you think they Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #8
Huh. Learn something new every day Scootaloo Jan 2014 #3
I did not know that. bravenak Jan 2014 #4
Had no idea what her religion was. Doesn't matter, really. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #5
Being Jewish is an ethnicity a people a nation King_David Feb 2014 #6
Have a nice day. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #9
When a person from let's say Norway converts to Judiasm R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #10
I see you've studied us people King_David Feb 2014 #11
I asked a question. If you don't wish to answer then it's alright. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #12
It's the same as immigrating .. King_David Feb 2014 #13
So there's no difference between a Jew, Christian or Muslim R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Feb 2014 #15
Even with your obsession you know very little about us, King_David Feb 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #17
Religion ? King_David Feb 2014 #18
Hahahahaha... R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #19
"Even with your obsession..." R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #20
The I in I\P stands for Israel, King_David Feb 2014 #21
Awwwww... There you go again you poor thing. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Feb 2014 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #24

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. What do they love about the story?
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jan 2014

It would not matter who represented SodaStream...even if she had refused to represent them.

No help would have come to the Palestinians to pressure Israel to accept a fair agreement.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. Exactly,
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 02:18 PM
Feb 2014

It matters to the BDS crowd and you are correct they don't give a damn about a fair agreement for the Palestinians . That's not part of their Raison d'être.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. Uh, no..that's not what I meant. What I asked you was, what do you think they
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 02:32 PM
Feb 2014

love about this story? The BDS movement is invested in the Palestinians receiving
a viable state..but it is also a somewhat fractured movement regarding
leadership.

Imo, BDS is not going to change anything to give the Palestinians a fair settlement.
The movement has been derailed, for one, by their politics, but most important, by
Kerry.

The US handed a framework to Bibi, one that contains, from what I have read, giving
him pretty much everything...but now Bibi wants more. BDS does not have the power
to change that, nor do they have the power of influence to change Abbas.

The United States wants a deal, and it looks like they will get it...Palestinians be damned.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Huh. Learn something new every day
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:32 PM
Jan 2014

Granted I'd rather learn Spanish, but I guess that takes more than a day.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
4. I did not know that.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:03 PM
Jan 2014

Thanks Dave. It makes more sense why she'd be involved in representing Soda Stream now. Must be a difficult position to be in for her. I've always thought she was so beautiful, and a great actress. Nice eyes.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Had no idea what her religion was. Doesn't matter, really.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 10:42 AM
Feb 2014

Last edited Sat Feb 1, 2014, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Perhaps Scoot's analysis makes some sense.

On edit: I'm sure some will use her religion for their own partisan purposes.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
13. It's the same as immigrating ..
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:17 AM
Feb 2014

Same as if you became Gazan .You live long enough within the community you assimilate completely and soon your part of a 3 State Solution , Gaza , Israel and the West Bank .

Go ask your question in the Jewish Group where it belongs .

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
14. So there's no difference between a Jew, Christian or Muslim
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:47 AM
Feb 2014

that live in America, Europe or Israel.

Each group is completely identical to its other entity in a fore mentioned countries?

Is that what you are implying? I'm pretty damn sure that most people are individuals first, and not clone-ish as you might suggest.


But I noticed something again. You switched from arguing about religious identity (Jewish) as "ethnicity a people a nation" to defining Regions again: Gaza, Israel and the West Bank.

You also did that with Russia and a Baltic State.

You really need to think through what you are writing before jotting it down in I/P.

Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #14)

King_David

(14,851 posts)
16. Even with your obsession you know very little about us,
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 11:04 AM
Feb 2014

I have found that culturally Jewish People are very similar in Argentina as they are in Australia or France.

Hamas doesn't differentiate either .

Take this discussion to the Jewish Group and test the tolerance there for your "definitions" of Jews as a people.

Response to King_David (Reply #16)

King_David

(14,851 posts)
18. Religion ?
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:21 PM
Feb 2014

No wonder you hold those views if yours.

Israel is The Jewish State and that has nothing to do with religion... Whatsoever .

Myself I am an atheist anyway I hold no religious views .

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
20. "Even with your obsession..."
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:49 PM
Feb 2014

My concern in I/P is with Israeli / Palestinian matters, and not if Scarlett Johansson is Jewish.

Now I did mention that there are probably some that will use her Jewish Identity for partisan purposes, and I believe that you fit comfortably into the category without the need for assistance.

So the next time you are in I/P and bring up a Jewish matter perhaps it is you that should take your own advice and take the discussion to the Jewish Group...instead of using I/P as your personal soapbox.

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