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Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:04 PM Feb 2014

Punishing Israel is no remedy for Western guilt

When the Arab-Israeli conflict involved five Arab armies attacking a tiny nascent socialist state, it was bon ton for leftists and liberals to support Israel. The Jewish State was “flavor of the month” and roundly applauded for its spectacular military victories.

It was, I believe, the confluence of two significant factors that drove the Western elites, particularly the left-wing section of that constituency, to abandon the Jewish state and dump their post-colonialism, post-Holocaust guilty conscience onto Israel.

After repeated and embarrassing military defeats the Arabs began to promote Yasser Arafat as the leader of a new Palestinian movement. Adopting the name of Palestine as his cause, they allowed Arafat, the first modern-day Islamic arch-terrorist, to spearhead a Pan-Arabism targeting Israel as the epitome of the West that they hated. He was their terror proxy where conventional warfare had failed them.

Initially, Arafat saw himself as the champion of Pan-Arabism. He even went so far as to deny a Palestinian aim in his fight against Israel. In a 1970 interview with Italian journalist, Arianna Palazzi, he said, “The question of borders doesn't interest us. Palestine is nothing but a drop in an enormous ocean. Our nation is the Arabic nation. The PLO is fighting Israel in the name of Pan- Arabism. What you call Jordan is nothing more than Palestine.”

http://www.jpost.com/Experts/Punishing-Israel-is-no-remedy-for-Western-guilt-343780

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Punishing Israel is no remedy for Western guilt (Original Post) Fozzledick Feb 2014 OP
The author of that op ed seems like a right wing asshole. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #1
From the same author. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #2
Welcome to Israel - Reclaiming the Narrative, Barry Shaw Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #3
The West needs to move beyond its guilt. Israel has turned into something R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #4

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
1. The author of that op ed seems like a right wing asshole.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:25 PM
Feb 2014

From his Facebook....







From the article you posted.

At the same time, Israel turned away from the socialism of the Labor Party. It was a time to liberate and capitalize their economy, the success of which can be seen in the emergence of Israel as “The Start Up Nation.” But the rejection of socialism was an anathema to the Western left, especially the more aggressive and radical wings who are tireless in plotting and planning a world in their image.


Neo-con drivel.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
2. From the same author.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:37 PM
Feb 2014
I used to be left. Now I am right.

I have no problem with the liberal left. Actually, I do, but I have a bigger problem with the far left that have seduced the liberal left with the lies that cloak a dark secret they are scared to expose.


Today, they disguise themselves as human rights activists, progressives, fighters for a better world, for social justice. They are deceivers. They are plotters. They are for upheaval. They are against peace and pragmatism.

As an example, close to my home and close to my heart, they mean to destroy Israel. They saw that decades of war and terror failed to dislodge or frighten a tiny but courageous Israeli population. They imposed boycotts, yet saw Israel become the Start Up Nation, a powerhouse of initiative and inventiveness. They try to disqualify Israel with trumped up charges that will not stand in any reputable international court, so they fill the court with representatives from nations of despots and human rights abusers to file prosecutions against the one free, democratic shining star, in a sea of mud.


The far left have a plan for Israel. It is one founded on its destruction. The liberal left and the progressives are delusional. They hold on to their dream of a new Middle East in which the surrounding states, including Palestine, will live in peace with Israel, despite the compelling evidence to the contrary.





Sure you don't have anything by Bill Bennett or Rush Limbaugh that you could post in support of Israel?

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. Welcome to Israel - Reclaiming the Narrative, Barry Shaw
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 02:27 PM
Feb 2014

ISRAEL RECLAIMING THE NARRATIVE is an indispensable read for pro-Israel activists and advocates, or for those in search of truth about Israel's position in a difficult and dangerous world. It exposes the lies and hypocrisy of the anti-Israel message. It is bursting with facts, statements, and details that give you the ability to challenge the false allegations made against Israel.



Why is this book different from all other books about Israel? All other books tend to defend Israel. ISRAEL RECLAIMING THE NARRATIVE goes on the attack against Israel's enemies. This is not an apology of a book. Why should Israel apologize for fighting for its right to exist?



This book exposes the real intent of those who hide their malevolent agenda against Israel, often behind a false cloak of human rights and pious morality, as they seek to deny those values to Israel and Israelis.

http://www.israelnarrative.com/

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
4. The West needs to move beyond its guilt. Israel has turned into something
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:44 AM
Feb 2014

resembling some of the worst elements of Western bigotry, and the West would do itself and Israel service if it stood up for something: telling Israel that enough is enough...before it is too late.
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