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Related: About this forumNetanyahu slams world's hypocrisy in not strongly condemning Iran's arms shipment to Gaza
Netanyahu, standing at a naval base in Eilat in front of rows of interdicted Syrian missiles and Iranian mortar shells, said that there are those in the world who did not want Israel to show the intercepted ordnance because they were not interested in knowing what was truly happening inside Iran, but rather to "develop the illusion that Iran has changed direction."
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"This time there were long-range missiles in these containers," he said. "In the containers in the future Iran can arm nuclear suitcases that it can send to every port in the world. The world must wake up from its illusions before it is too late and prevent Iran from getting the capability to manufacture nuclear weapons."
Speaking at Eilat port at the exhibition of Iranian arms, Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon said, "What we're seeing here is another example of the fact that the Iranian regime is actually the largest terror exporter in the world. There is no conflict in the Middle East that this regime does not nourish with weapons or ammunition, with money or knowledge in terrorism. From Afghanistan, through Bahrain, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, and in this case, the Gaza Strip."
The defense minister said the rockets on display were meant to be fired on Israeli citizens.
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Netanyahu-on-hand-as-cache-of-weapons-from-Iranian-arms-ship-on-display-in-Eilat-344878
Please feel free to post additional examples of anti-Israeli hypocrisy.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)dude's pretty much exhausted any political capital he had with the rest of the world. He's not getting his war with Iran that he wants the US to fight for him. He's under actual pressure to come to terms with the Palestinians... Suddenly here's a ship from Iran laden with arms headed for Gaza, how fortuitous for Mr. Bibbles! Now this just proves - PROVES I SAY! - that Iran is a rabid dog to be put down and the Palestinians can't be reasoned with, by gum!
One would think Tehran was sending him a birthday present.
Now I'm not saying that this is a fraud - could be, could not be, I don't know. But I know that Netanyahu is about as trustworthy as Chris Christie, and for pretty much the same reasons, and even if true, this could definitely be a case of calling wolf too many times already.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)The same logic as the birthers who won't say outright that Obama was born in Kenya, they just "don't know for sure".
I knew I could count on you!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)So your position is that only every other nation on earth has politicians that engage in underhanded shit? Israel's embattled prime minister is as honest as a basket of kittens on a summer day?
When I say "I don't know," I don't know. I have Bibi's word and asurance on the matter. But I don't value his word and assurance, because he's an underhanded right-wing scumbag who's lied out his ass on tons of other shit, too. His assertion actually undermines the case. For all I know he could indeed be as honest as that basket of kittens... and it's just that he's been such a dishonest creep all these years past that I have no reason to believe him even so. See the problem?
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)And I've told you before to keep your hands off my last syllable. I know you're obsessed, but at least try to restrain yourself.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Your link takes us to Netanyahu exploiting the Holocaust for political points.
Are you trying to convince me that i should take this man at his word, or are you joining me in finding him to be a dubious voice, at best? I'm puzzled.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)19 Feb 2014
Israeli arms dealers twice tried to send spare parts for fighter planes to Iran, The Telegraph has established, flouting an international arms embargo and openly contradicting the bitter enmity between the Jewish state and the Islamic regime.
The illegal shipments are now being investigated by the US Homeland Security Department after they were intercepted by authorities in Greece.
The potentially explosive revelation came as six world powers resumed negotiations with Iran in Vienna aimed at reaching a long-term agreement over Tehrans nuclear programme.
Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, marked the event with a renewed call for increased pressure on Iran to force it to abandon a programme that Israel regards as a front for building an atomic bomb and a threat to its existence.
Visiting the Golan Heights on Tuesday, he accused Iran of arming those who are carrying out the slaughter in neighbouring Syria.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10649567/US-investigates-illegal-military-equipment-shipments-from-Israel-to-Iran.html
King_David
(14,851 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Spare parts for F-4 Phantom jets said despatched by a ghost company near Haifa; TV report wonders whether this was some kind of sting operation against Iran
ATHENS Greek authorities intercepted arms shipments apparently sent by one or more Israelis and intended for Iran, in violation of international sanctions, a Greek newspaper reported.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/greece-intercepts-israeli-sent-arms-shipments-to-iran/
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)The photos showing Israeli soldiers seizing control of the Klos-C weapons vessel, and the sounds of congratulatory slaps on the backs of the countrys top brass, are reminiscent of the heated race to obtain the victory photo during the second Lebanon war in 2006. Military analyst Ofer Shelah, a member of the Knesset and of its Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, wrote in an article published in 2011 in the Israeli daily Maariv that a force of paratroopers was sent to the village of Bint Jbeil to fly the Israeli flag over one of the houses, to snap a picture and to withdraw.
The victory photo, explained Shelah, was designed to sear the consciousness of both sides with Israels undeniable victory.
The victory celebrations following the takeover of the weapons vessel, and the display of the Made in Iran label on a sack of cement found in its cargo hold, were designed mostly to sear consciousness. This time the targets were the Israeli public and world public opinion. The message: Iranian President Hassan Rouhani is a tiger in sheeps skin, and Iran was, and remains, the source of all the troubles in the Middle East and a threat to world peace, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at the AIPAC conference last week on March 4.
The publicity surrounding the operation, after many similar ones were kept secret, was designed, according to Netanyahu, to expose Irans true face as one who grossly violates international law even while conducting talks with world powers. Defense Minister Moshe (Bogie) Yaalon also contributed extensive diplomatic analysis of the operation, saying that despite the smiles, the Iranian regime hasnt changed. Its strategic goals and intentions havent changed, nor has its activity.
The collateral benefit, and perhaps actually the main benefit, from the weapons vessel event was the disappearance of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the negotiations on a diplomatic arrangement from the top of the news. When the army representative provides detailed information about the number of missiles in the ships hold and their range, who remembers that a day earlier the Central Bureau of Statistics reported a record number of housing starts in the settlements?
When the radio and television stations air interviews in which Yaalon claims that the Iranians are leading the world astray, who cares that at the height of the diplomatic negotiations, Yaalon also said that those claiming peace achievable mislead the people, and suggested discarding the illusion of conflict resolution?
The minister of defense complained that the Iranians were smuggling weapons to Gaza using subterfuge without leaving [Iranian] fingerprints
to blur the very fact that they come from the Islamic Republic, by making an interim stop at an Iraqi port. So what did he expect? That they would transfer the weapons through the port of Ashdod?
Israel and the Hamas government in Gaza are in a state of war. And as the saying goes, ''à la guerre comme à la guerre.'' Why should a French or Australian get excited over the seizure of weapons making their way to a region of conflict?
The founders of the Jewish state can teach the heads of the Islamic Jihad and their Iranian suppliers a thing or two about arms smuggling and its production during war, under the nose of a foreign occupier.
The web site of Palyam, the naval arm of the Palmach [the underground army of the Jewish community during the British mandate], recounts proudly how the organization bypassed the arms embargo imposed by the UN in the 1940s on the warring parties: The arms smuggling was carried out in subversive ways and sophisticated means, under the eyes of the British.
The shipments of smuggled weapons arrived in Israel disguised as cargo on ordinary commercial vessels. Weapons acquisition ships carried out more than 50 shipments during the War of Independence, bringing in some 35,000 tons of weaponry, including heavy weapons, tanks and airplanes.
Jewish American volunteers smuggled in cargo planes from the United States.
In the production facilities, which were disguised as factories and workshops, bullets, bombs and other explosives were made.
Since those days, Israel has become one of the worlds leading weapons exporters. The state, which Netanyahu described at the AIPAC conference in Washington as humane and compassionate, sells weapons to dictatorial rulers throughout Africa and Latin America, including Uganda and Equatorial Africa. It cooperated with South Africa under the apartheid regime and even sold weapons to the ayatollahs regime in Iran.
According to UN data, Israels defense industries exported weapons to 29 countries around the world in the past decade. Most of the deals are conducted in secret, through circuitous routes.
One should not make light of the importance of the seizure of the missile shipment, which apparently was designed to arm the terror organizations in the Gaza Strip, to the security of Israels citizens. But between this, and describing this weaponry as a tie breaker, in Netanyahus words, is like the distance between the Israeli nuclear facility in Dimona (according to foreign sources) and the Iranian nuclear facility at Bushehr. Yaalon, speaking at a formal ceremony several weeks ago, on Jan. 27, said, Theres no doubt the IDF is the strongest military in the Middle East. How, then, can one break a tie when theres no tie? Even if one doesnt take into account the reports from foreign sources about the nuclear bombs in Israels possession, several dozen rockets do not change the balance of power between the IDF and the Arab and Iranian armies.
The victory photo of the ship being led into the port of Eilat to the sound of a cheering crowd, will not change the balance of power in world public opinion between the Israeli occupier and the Palestinian occupied. This image will not influence the attitude of the six world powers toward Iran, either. Most importantly, the military operation and the attendant PR campaign will not advance Israels fundamental interests one iota: The change in the balance of power between the peace camp and the rejectionist organizations in the territories, an end to the conflict with the Arab states, ensuring the democratic and Jewish character of Israel, and curbing the erosion of its international standing.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/03/iran-weapons-shipment-israel-palestinian-conflict.html#
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.579000
* Bibi the idiot and hypocrite supreme.