Israel/Palestine

bemildred

(90,061 posts) Wed Apr 16, 2014, 01:44 PM Apr 2014

Abbas denounces Hebron terror attack to delegation of Israeli legislators

A group of Israeli opposition lawmakers met with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah to discuss the crisis in the peace negotiations Wednesday, amid heightened tensions over the shooting death of and Israeli man near Hebron on Passover eve.

Nitzan Horowitz (Meretz), who was part of the delegation, told The Jerusalem Post that Abbas denounced all terror including the killing of Baruch Mizrachi in Monday evening's terror attack.

"Abu Mazen [Abbas] said this specifically, he emphasized his disgust from bloodshed and terrorism. He said he's willing to participate in the investigation of the attack and to bring those accountable to justice," Horowitz said.

Horowitz expressed optimism on Wednesday that Abbas was a genuine partner in the peace talks. He also said that only a Center-Left oriented government could bring about the end to the conflict with the Palestinians.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/As-Right-blames-Palestinian-incitement-for-terror-attack-Left-meets-Abbas-in-Ramallah-348662

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Abbas denounces Hebron terror attack to delegation of Israeli legislators (Original Post) bemildred Apr 2014 OP

Don't hold your breath waitinng for Bibi to condemn settler and IDF terror, Abbas. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #1

It's another way for Abbas to not play ball any more. bemildred Apr 2014 #2

Bibi seems confident to wait and see what we do, or won't do but mostly waiting for Abbas. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #3

You might find this interesting: bemildred Apr 2014 #4

Yea, that is exactly what I mean! Those two have about as much respect for territorial Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #5

conflicting narratives Times of Israel is reporting the opposite azurnoir Apr 2014 #6

But of course. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #7

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)

1. Don't hold your breath waitinng for Bibi to condemn settler and IDF terror, Abbas.

Reply to bemildred (Original post)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 01:57 PM

Apr 2014

Nor the US, for that matter.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

2. It's another way for Abbas to not play ball any more.

Reply to Jefferson23 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 02:00 PM

Apr 2014

And he is signing all those conventions, so he has to do this.

Edit: no idea what Bibi is going to do at this point. I suspect Bibi doesn't know what Bibi is going to do right now.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)

3. Bibi seems confident to wait and see what we do, or won't do but mostly waiting for Abbas.

Reply to bemildred (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 02:10 PM

Apr 2014

I mentioned in another thread, and it may be nothing of significance, but I thought it was another example
of our disapproval and it made the press again...about Israel and Russia.

Most likely my wishful thinking at play.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

4. You might find this interesting:

Reply to Jefferson23 (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 02:20 PM

Apr 2014

Israel and Russia are getting along. Have the neocons noticed?

Russia and Israel seem to have a growing affinity for each other. A few weeks ago, Israel abstained from a vote in the U.N. censuring Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that this is a sore spot for the White House and a diplomatic novum on the world scene:

A senior Israeli official said that Israel's absence from the United Nations vote was viewed around the world as an extremely irregular measure, a departure from a long-standing Israeli policy of voting with the United States in the UN. While the Americans viewed Israel's behavior as ungrateful, in light of Washington's unshakable support for Jerusalem in the UN, in the Kremlin and in the Russian media Israel's action was seen as an expression of support for Moscow, or at the very least a lack of opposition to the invasion of Ukraine. [Haaretz]

This report and Israel's warming relations with Russia became an occasion for Andrew Sullivan to reflect on the similarities between those two nations. The political leaders in both countries conceive of themselves as leaders of distinctive ethno-nationalist states and both have expansionist tendencies justified on the protection of co-ethnics living outside their current borders.

Borrowing from a smart post by Daniel Larison, Sullivan says that if Israel were to agree to the American-supported resolution, it would condemn itself, since it does not hold to the same strict interpretation of territorial sovereignty on which the condemnation of Russia relied. Sullivan puts a very fine point on it.

http://theweek.com/article/index/260033/israel-and-russia-are-getting-along-have-the-neocons-noticed

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)

5. Yea, that is exactly what I mean! Those two have about as much respect for territorial

Reply to bemildred (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 02:30 PM

Apr 2014

sovereignty as well..uh, fill in the blank.........( pick any Neocon you prefer ).

My wishful thinking is, the US finally says, hey..you know what, you're on your own with respect
to the conflict. Ending the conflict would not alter our strategic alliance with Israel, they need us, so I wish they would
tell their lobby friends, it's over.

On edit, do you think the US would be concerned the Russia/Israel alliance could be strong enough
to leave us irrelevant? I find that hard to believe..but the world has become more fragile than ever.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

6. conflicting narratives Times of Israel is reporting the opposite

Reply to bemildred (Original post)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 04:44 PM

Apr 2014

http://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-tells-mks-hes-waiting-for-probe-before-condemning-shooting/

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

7. But of course. nt

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 04:52 PM

Apr 2014

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