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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:34 AM Jun 2014

The kidnapping is indefensible – but Israel helped provoke it

http://972mag.com/the-kidnapping-is-indefensible-but-israel-helped-provoke-it/92108/

So the virtually unchallenged view today is that Palestinian terror comes out of the blue – it has nothing to do with the occupation, or Israel’s stance in the just-ended peace process, or its policy toward Palestinian prisoners, or anything at all. It follows, then, that there’s nothing really wrong with the occupation, or our stance in the peace process, or our policy toward prisoners or whatever else we do. What we do to them is irrelevant, it’s not worth any attention. The Palestinians act out of “motiveless malignity,” like Shakespeare’s evil character Iago.

This belief that Israel is a passive innocent and the Palestinians relentless evildoers leads the public, led perfectly by Netanyahu, to make endless demands on the other side while ignoring theirs. And when the Palestinian Authority keeps the peace year after year in West Bank cities, villages and refugee camps in the face of the most contemptuous, unyielding Israeli government in 30 years, Israelis don’t find anything remarkable there – that’s the way it should be. So when a terror attack does occur, Israelis are stunned: why are they doing this to us? Where does such evil come from?

I imagine that in the rest of the world (except America), the reaction to the kidnapping, to the extent that there is a reaction, is: “What does Israel expect?” Because the world (outside America) sees what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, which Israelis don’t.

An example of this one-eyed view is the resentment here being directed at PA leader Mahmoud Abbas because he hasn’t publicly denounced the kidnapping. What escapes Israelis’ notice, though, is that on Wednesday night, a day and a half before the news of the kidnapping, it was reported that a highly credible autopsy found that 17-year-old Nadim Nawarah, one of the two Palestinian boys killed in a Nakba Day protest, was shot with live bullets, despite the IDF’s claim that its troops shot only rubber-coated ones – yet not a word was heard from the Israeli army or government. First a video shows that Israeli troops shot and killed Nawarah and Muhammad Salameh, 16, while they were doing nothing but walking down a road, and the IDF denies responsibility. Then an autopsy proves the IDF wrong, and Israel reacts with a blank stare. Yet in Israel people are offended that Abbas, whose forces are reportedly combing the West Bank for the kidnappers, hasn’t spoken out publicly against the attack.

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The kidnapping is indefensible – but Israel helped provoke it (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2014 OP
Will anyone from the US suggest the settlers leave the West Bank? n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #1
Honestly? No. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2014 #2
Yea, that is no surprise. When you have no political power you're worthless. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #3
Netanyahu attempts to score political points by directing conversation about abducted Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #4
The kidnapping is indefensible sabbat hunter Jun 2014 #5
Opinions vary. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2014 #6
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
2. Honestly? No.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jun 2014

Incidentally, have you noticed the difference in press coverage between the Nakba day killings and the kidnapping?

There was scant to no coverage in the MSM for the two Palestinians gunned down, but with the Israelis it has been wall to wall coverage.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
4. Netanyahu attempts to score political points by directing conversation about abducted
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jun 2014

teens to destroy unity talks..what a guy.

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
5. The kidnapping is indefensible
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jun 2014

but I am going to defend it.

That is what I got out of the article and the subject line.

It is like saying "I am not racist but" or "I am all for equal rights but"

Simply, no no no.


condemn the kidnappings flat out.

condemn the settlements.
But do not say "well they provoked it"

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
6. Opinions vary.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:47 PM
Jun 2014

I no more want to see Israeli youth kidnapped by assholes than I wish to see Palestinian youths gunned down by them.

If one can't see a corollary between the two I'm not sure what they can see.

The Palestinian youths are dead and can't come back. I just hope that the Israeli youth will be released unharmed.
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