is but one example of how this terrible tragedy is being played for political gain here is another

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11346650

add to that there is a statement from the French government that says the murderer claims to have committed the murderous attack on Jewish schoolchildren to avenge Palestinian children and you've got the making of an Anti-Palestinian propaganda fest as we're seeing here

Very progressive of you.

...the French murders with the war in Gaza.

She actually did equate the two.

Ashton and Kershner can both go to hell.

the death of an Arab or Palestinian child is a mere and sometimes excusable statistic while the death of a Jewish child is a tragedy that can not be 'compared' to any other but hopefully for most of us the death of any child is a tragedy no matter what his ethnic group or race , what MS Ashton said was IMO indicative of that mind-set

Ashton compared deliberate murder of children (in France, Norway, Sderot, and Syria) to what the IDF does in Gaza.

The IDF doesn't deliberately kill children in Gaza.

That's what is offensive, and her remark just adds fuel to the fire for Jew haters who now see hatred of Jews becoming more mainstream. When Ashton says the Jews target children in Gaza, then the Jews must be bad. Therefore, they were justifiable targets in France.

Ashton's part of the problem. She's hardly better than Khulood Badawi and typifies what the new antisemitism is about.

accidentally by IDF that they become mere collateral damage and there for not as tragic?

as to the rest IMO the revving a tweeted photo of the wrong child and expressing the tragedy of the deaths of children is hardly antisemitism old or new IOW that cow is running dry

BTW how's the on-line petition against Khulood Badawi coming along?

Ashton is part of that new anti-semitism.

Just as Khulood Badawi is. The child in Badawi's tweet wasn't killed by the IDF. So not only was the photo from 2006, the child wasn't the deliberate target of evil IDF demons.

This isn't about human rights and Palestinian tragedies as a result of war.

It's about defamation, bigotry, and delegitimization.

Palestinian children are only useful, and their lives are only tragic, if Israel is involved in the equation. They're used as a tool to stir up centuries old hatred vs. Jews.

now if IDF had not killed any Palestinian children since 2006 or even in the recent flare-up it could be said that the tweet 'demonized' IDF, however seeing that since 1/19/2009-12/31/2011 there have been at least 32 Palestinian children or minors killed by IDF not including the ones that IDF did kill in the recent flare up really it was a case of sloppy tweeting

as to Ms Ashton's comment, they were hardly 'defamation, bigotry, and delegitimization'.

Just want to make sure.

and that is why I stated children or minors in the comment you are replying to, however thank you for that reply it speaks for itself

Basel 'Imad Hamad Abo Jazar
17 year-old resident of Rafah, killed on 18.12.2010 next to Deir al-Balah, by a missile. Participated in hostilities, member of the military wing of Ansar a-Suna. Additional information: Killed along with four other armed men when they were about to fire missiles into Israel, from south of Deir al-Balah.

Muhammad Amin Muhammad Shahawan
17 year-old resident of Khan Yunis, killed on 01.06.2010 next to Khan Yunis. Participated in hostilities, member of the military wing of Islamic Jihad. Additional information: Killed with another armed man in an exchange of gunfire with the army east of Khan Yunis.

Muhammad Ashraf 'Abd Rabo Ghaban
17 year-old resident of Beit Lahiya, North Gaza district, killed on 01.03.2010 next to Beit Lahiya, North Gaza district, by a shell fired from a tank. Participated in hostilities, member of the military wing of Popular Resistance Committee. Additional information: He was killed by tank shelling while trying, with a group of armed men, to lay an explosive charge next to the perimeter fence.

how many other can you excuse?

If a 16 or 17 year old takes part in the hostilities, i.e. actually attempts to engage in a violent attack, the army should do what in response?

We are talking about people who were actually themselves launching rockets or setting roadside bombs.

You think they ought to be in the same category as innocent children killed by bombs while sitting in their houses or playing outside?

On December 26, 2008 a mortar aimed at Israel killed two Palestinian girls in the Gaza Strip, aged 5 and 12.

Maybe someone should tweet their picture.

but I am sure you can justify many of those too, however the point still stands Palestinian children have been killed by IDF, the tweet was sloppy but hardly demonizing

I don't think there is any reason to represent things falsely in order to get that point across.

Innocent children have died at the hands of Israelis and Palestinians.

This, sadly, is the case in all military conflicts.

I am surprised that photos have not been posted online of the children killed in Afghanistan by the American soldier who went on that recent rampage.

I can only imagine the anger that could cause.

however IMO if someone tweeted a photo of a child that actually had been killed by the Taliban I seriously doubt that we'd be seeing this level of outrage, well on second thought perhaps we would see some outrage over a photo of the wrong child being tweeted but not on this site

"See this picture? This is what the Jews do to Palestinians".

Nevermind it's from 2006 and the Jews (IDF) had zero to do with her death. It's nasty propaganda and I'm 100% certain that if the other side were doing this - if Jews or Israeli supporters were smearing and libeling Arabs with all sorts of demonstrably false charges - you'd have no problem acknowledging the bigotry for what it is. Especially if the perpetrator(s) were unapologetic about it, as Badawi still is.

As for Ashton, she's cut from the same disgusting cloth. The type of scum who excuses Palestinian terrorists for purposely hiding amongst Palestinian children while shooting rockets at Israel - who then blames, libels, and shamelessly demonizes Israel (the Jews) for having the audacity to defend its civilians. The type of scum who excuses Palestinian terror against Israeli innocents.

Even when it's clear Israel is a world leader in successfully protecting civilians in combat situations, Ashton's odious ilk cannot help but liken Israel to Nazis or to Assad's Syria, to Hamas rocketeers, and the French murderer of little Jewish children. The simple reason being she hates Israel. Palestinians only matter to her when Israel can be blamed. They mean nothing to her ilk when Hamas is killing and systematically oppressing them. Same WRT Lebanese apartheid. Ashton, like Badawi and almost the entire pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel movement, is as concerned about Palestinians as leaders throughout the Arab world are (meaning they aren't). They believe it's best to keep Palestinians suffering in refugee camps for 60 years or as long as it takes (to protect their Palestinian identities).

Lady Ashton and the lowlife hypocritical bigots running Iran, Libya, Lebanon, and Syria practice rightwing, very thinly veiled anti-Jew humanitarianism. The same vile crap that bigots like Gilad Atzmon, John Mearsheimer, George Galloway, and Helen Thomas practice.

Note: None of the perpetrators above, not one of them, whether the individuals above or the disgusting perverts in movements like the ISM, BDS, IAW, or the FGM ever pauses to reflect on how their words or deeds can be used in way as to harm Jews - or give open anti-Semites like David Duke justification for their hatred. Never do these bigots ever apologize for anything they do or say that is wrong, false, or libelous. They just continue doing and saying the same nasty things, over and over again. Ignoring or mocking those who bring up legitimate arguments against them.

Conclusion: They're vile, odious and disgusting bigots whose hatred is cloaked in sanctimonious humanitarian concern.

or only the ones that matter to you?
second IDF has killed Palestinian children, is it that they do not bleed?

you can reach any conclusion that makes these deaths ok for you does not make it fact though

what is true is that a picture of the wrong child was tweeted however that does not wipe clean the Palestinian children that IDF has killed no matter how much you try

...their criticism never ever has anything, in fact nothing at all to do with the 20% of the Israeli population that is non-Jewish. Without fail, the 20% of Israelis who are non-Jewish are never the targets of Israel bashers. When mentioned, they're victims of the other 80%.

And you keep trying to misdirect...

second IDF has killed Palestinian children, is it that they do not bleed?

Of course they bleed, every bit as much as Palestinian child victims of Hamas, but for some reason THOSE Palestinian children's deaths are more acceptable than Palestinian kids killed while in conflict among terrorists using them as shields. I never hear or read about Israel bashers ripping into Hamasniks or PI Jihadniks committing flagrant war crimes by using these children to hide behind. Apparently, Palestinian children only bleed when Israel can somehow be blamed.

you can reach any conclusion that makes these deaths ok for you does not make it fact though

No one says their deaths are okay. If Israel thought that was so, they wouldn't be more careful than any other nation while in combat to protect innocents and children. However, and once again, their deaths are okay to the Israel bashing crowd when they are victims of an oppressive regime committing war crimes against them. Recall that the anti-Israel crowd believes it is anti-Palestinian to ever call out Palestinian terrorists or Hamas leadership for who they truly are, and for all that they do. This is sanctimonious, rightwing humanitarianism practiced by the Israel bashers.

Are you starting to get it yet?

what is true is that a picture of the wrong child was tweeted

Wrong child? Who are you kidding? Why would any decent person run interference for those who deliberately and maliciously libel Jews and are unapologetic about it after all the facts come out? Here's Badawi's twitter "correction":

http://twitter.com/#!/khuloodbadawi

Nothing there at all about the fact that the girl died as a result of falling from a swing. A week later and Badawi is still making it appear Israel killed the girl in the photo that she tweeted. Disgusting.

however that does not wipe clean the Palestinian children that IDF has killed no matter how much you try

You have quite the double standard here to explain.

You aren't even as remotely concerned about Palestinian child victims of deliberate Hamas warcrimes as you are against Israel when it's protecting its citizens from terrorist attacks. How is that possible? What Hamas does to Palestinian children is by far worse than anything Israel does in self defense, but you're silent about that.

But maybe you disagree. I really hope you do.

You could then explain why you obsess over Palestinian children's deaths at the hands of the IDF while they're used as shields RATHER than focus even a little bit on Hamas and PIJ using them as shields. Why is the former worth 100x the condemnation of the latter? I'd love to hear that explanation.

Please, please, please do explain.

It appears you're trying very hard to wipe clean the blood of Palestinian child victims of Hamas and PIJ terror attacks and their oppressive and very brutal political policies. Why would anyone pro-Palestinian ever do such a thing? All Palestinian kids should matter. Do you have a word to say about child deaths that are used for cynical and vile political purposes by Hamas and PIJ? Anything at all?

Lady Ashton has the same problem, but even worse. She actually equates what the IDF does in self defense to what Hamas does WRT rockets on civilians in Sderot, to what Syria is doing now under Assad, and to what the sick French murderer did to small Jewish children. THAT is what is outrageous. Ashton couldn't condemn the murder of these children in France without also implying at the same time that Jews are doing the same thing WRT Gazan children.

tweet to delegitimize the entire Palestinian 'movement' and claim it's 'them' who are hateful? As to khulood badawi who is an Israeli Arab, UN worker, and advocate for Palestinians both inside Israel and its occupied territories she made a wrongful tweet but frothing and hate filled demonetization of her is being used as a distraction from what is actually happening

as to Ms Ashton the spin that the ProIsrael crowd is attempting to put on her comments boils down to this she mentions the deaths of Arab and other children around the globe in the same paragraph as she mentions the deaths of the French Jewish children and that's a problem for some, for others we do not feel the death of any child takes presidence over that of any other because of their ethnic group or race or religion or who killed them

...false and libelous in order to delegitimize the Palestinian movement. Why, when there's more than enough factual material out there already?

Not once have I ever tweeted or texted.

You're actually defending Badawi's malice, reasoning that if the other side does it then she can do so too. And that Israel's supporters have no business condemning her b/c by doing so, they're distracting from IDF "criminality".

Unbelievable, but typical.

for others we do not feel the death of any child takes presidence over that of any other because of their ethnic group or race or religion or who killed them

Really? Then why don't you show concern WRT Israeli children murdered via terror attacks? Or Palestinian children killed by Hamas and PIJ?