Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumAnti-Semitic Attacks Scar British Cities
Britains Jews are suffering an anti-semitic backlash against Israels military action in Gaza with attacks, bomb threats, bricks thrown at a synagogue and Hitler was right banners.
About 100 hate incidents have been recorded by police and community groups this month more than double the number that monitors would usually expect.
Many are said to have been carried out by young Muslim men and, in some cases, the attackers have invoked the Holocaust.
The most serious incidents being investigated include:
A rabbi who was attacked by four youths outside a Jewish school in Gateshead
Bricks being thrown at a synagogue in Belfast, smashing windows on two consecutive nights
A group of Asian men who drove through a Jewish area of Greater Manchester, shouting Heil Hitler and hurling missiles at pedestrians
A man using Twitter to call for a Jewish neighbourhood in London to be bombed so Jews feel the pain of the Palestinians.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/250430/anti-semitic-attacks-scar-british-cities.html
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)It doesn't change the fact that Israel IS responsible for the deaths of a lot of civilians...children.
Diverting attention is a well known game of the guilt ridden and those who wish to play the victim.
Please just stop. Nobody buys this nonsense.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)It's very noticeable.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 27, 2014, 10:28 PM - Edit history (1)
Spamming the board as a diversionary tactic isn't likely to persuede anybody.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Is better to ignore them?
Not likely.
Even if it's an inconvenient truth.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)It's just that you never care about the attacks on Palestinians. You minimize their deaths at times to suit your own needs. So pardon me if I find your sudden anti violence stand somewhat disingenuous.
King_David
(14,851 posts)What an awful slanderous thing to say.
I never see you post in these violent anti Jewish threads , imagine if I were to say you and a few other people never care for Jews ?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Lord have mercy! Go ahead and say it. I'm quite able to handle it without getting all butthurt. Or calling anyone slanderous or playing the victim. Besides, I've already said that we, the US, care about ISRAEL more and hold her to a standard that she gives herself. I am an atheist. I have no favorite group of people who identify with the same theocracy. Being a part of an oppressed people in the US makes me sympathize more with oppressed people across the world, whether they like my kind or not.
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leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I'm sure it annoys those who want to focus on only one part of this but tough, these stories are becoming a daily thing and it's important they get posted.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Spin doctors.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)upset at having to see these stories than thinking about WHY there are so many of them. And really? Calling stories about the anti-semitism covering Europe at the moment is nonsense? Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at that.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)When Jews were attacked in the uk .
The reason so many people think attacks on Jews is "ok" in the UK or USA or France is because of what Israel does , is because they got involved in this conflict because of Jews .
These people doing the attacks in the main are not Muslim or Palestinian they are Irish or Australian or Danish or from the USA and involved in this because of opposition to Jews --- they then attack the Jews .
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Ask him if there have been attacks on other places of worship in Ireland around he same time.
Ask him if anybody has been apprehended in any of these crimes.
Ask him if a motive has been ascertained by somebody besides himself.
Once you read through the king's posts one might start to believe that he is bigoted towards the French and Irish...or maybe just Europeans in general.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Attacks on Jews is apparently something that SOME DUers just find too distracting from what it is they want to discuss. So distracting that they simply cannot scroll by the thread, they must park themselves in it and complain bitterly that everyone isn't obsessing about the same things they want to obsess about. So distracting that they can't find one second to decry the fact that people are suffering beatings and other disgusting behavior for something they have nothing to do with. Let's all put our lives on hold and help them put their hands over their ears so they don't have to hear anything they find too disturbing and too distracting.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Do you even get the irony of your post?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)because you obviously have no idea what it means. You waltz into a thread that has nothing to do with Israel and dump all over it because it's too inconvenient to point out that anti semitism exists. That is entirely your problem. If you don't like the topic of a post, try scrolling past it next time instead of trying to make it all about what YOU want to talk about. There ARE liberals who care that Jews all over the world are getting attacked and people like you just try and minimize it because of an unrelated topic. Unless, of course, you also believe that all Jews everywhere are responsible for Israeli actions. You don't believe anything that stupid, do you?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)at the hand of the IDF and Bibi baby killer.
A few broken windows is nothing compared to the deaths if the inmocent.
I hope bringing that up wasn't an inconvenience to you and your pity party.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)And yet again you can't stop yourself from lurching away from the topic of this OP. It's entirely your problem and I'm not about to jump through your hoops. You're simply not that important.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)really bores you.
It's sad since some spin doctors and their cheerleaders are playing the victim while
the IDF murders children.
And its back ro the irony if the hand wringers.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Anyone who wont jump through your hoops is a spin doctor and a cheerleader. The only one going for perpetual victimhood is the one who can't scroll by any OP about Jews and not make it about Israel. Truly, truly pathetic.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Well, no. Actually anybody that acts like a spin doctor and posts "poor old me" posts over and over to distract from hundreds of murders, many whom are children, is what I would classify as one.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Here's something else you can get your knickers in a knot about:
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Majority-of-American-public-blames-Hamas-for-current-conflict-369305
According to a recent poll by PewResearch, 40% of Americans blame Hamas for the current crisis in Gaza, while only 19% believe that Israel is responsible.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Israel is to blame for the civilians it has murdered.
But it was sho darn nice of ya to try and blame somebody else at 40%.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)but I would have answered the same as the 40%. Of course you don't care - that's been my point all day long.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)who can't simply scroll past a post they obviously have no interest in. No, they have to make it all about what THEY want to talk about. Like freeking children.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)is to acknowledge that Netanyahu and the IDF are murderers of innocent children and civilians.
But hey, let's post about a few broken windows to keep the attention elsewhere.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to discuss the topic of Jews without bringing Israel into it? Apparently not.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I believe he is doing it to distract from what Israel is doing WRT heinous acts of premeditated murder of civilians and choldren in Gaza. It is my opinion that this is being done as a distraction to divert attention from the war crimes that Israel is responsible for at present.
You are free to make any observations about my posts you like, but a casual look at the king's posts backs up my claim that the posts are meant to distract from Israeli atrocities.
Deal with it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)What they do prove is that Jew haters will take any opportunity they can to attack Jews and some people seem perfectly okay with that as long as they can tie it in any way to Israel. You know, like you continually do.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)well, to those who are not willfully blind.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)are the ones that show you continually trying to distract from very real anti semitism. You want to dismiss it, downplay it and distract from it. The stories aren't being made up - the problem is real and you don't give a shit. That's what's obvious here. And now I'm done with you.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Two leading German newspapers led their Friday editions with calls for an end to hatred against Jews.
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bricks thrown through the windows of a Belfast synagogue on two successive nights.
http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/1.607433
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Last week in Haifa, the Arab deputy mayor and his son were brutally beaten by a mob of Jewish supremacists chanting death to Arabs and death to leftists in response to a rally against the Gaza onslaught. Police did nothing to stop the assault. Similar fascist demonstrators have surfaced in supposedly liberal Tel Aviv as well, verbally and physically attacking Palestinians and leftists protesting the war on Gaza. Israeli blogger Elizabeth Tsurkov, who has been regularly attending and live-tweeting the racist attacks against anti-war demonstrators in recent weeks, heard a new racist chant mocking the more than two hundred children slaughtered by Israels merciless bombing campaign in Gaza: Tomorrow theres no school in Gaza, they dont have any children left.
Mosby
(16,320 posts)According to the far left, anti-semitism and hatred of Israel is the fault of the Jews.
We are asking for it I guess.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)There are those who simply cannot discuss the subject of Jews without bringing Israel into it and anybody who wants to discuss ANYTHING but Israel are nothing but cheerleaders. They don't even realize how pathetic they are.
King_David
(14,851 posts)I don't believe it's a left or right issue though when your so obsessed with Jews and minimizing or ignoring or playing down AntiSemitism it's not really because you support Palestinian rights .
Look at Greta Berlin of the Free Gaza movement as a perfect example, her hate of Jews as illustrated on her Facebook page made her a huge supporter of " Palestinian rights" and tarnished the reputations of genuine Palestinian rights activists that they disowned her.
A huge amount of the support from non Palestinians is this phenomenon.