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Related: About this forumIsrael army tells all north Gaza residents to flee their homes ( updated )
Published yesterday (updated) 28/07/2014 21:41
GAZA CITY (Ma'an) -- The Israeli military on Monday evening sent text messages and phone calls to residents of all cities in the northern Gaza Strip and parts of Gaza City telling them to evacuate their homes "immediately," potentially displacing more than 400,000 people.
The military said in a statement that it had told the residents of Shujaiyya and Zaitoun neighborhoods in northern and eastern Gaza City as well Jabaliya, Beit Hanoun, and Beit Lahiya cities in northern Gaza to evacuate their homes and leave for central Gaza City.
The Israeli military has previously said that it would treat all civilians who stay behind in areas it had deemed off-limits to be combatants.
The warnings come after an Israeli drone strike killed 10 people in a playground in al-Shati, after Gaza militants fired rockets into Israel earlier in the day in response to Israeli shelling.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=716715
oberliner
(58,724 posts)In what cases has the Israeli military said that? The article cites none.
The article does not indicate that the Israeli military has said such a thing in this case.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Not the most reliable source.
Usually needs a cross reference.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)sabbat hunter
(6,835 posts)the cross reference/proof is upon you to back up the assertions that Ma'an news is stating.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)atreides1
(16,093 posts)Why not just lay waste to the entire area without warning the population? It would make things so much easier for the Israeli government...besides with the huge amount of support from the Israeli people and from many here in the United States...there would be few questioning what was done!
I'm sure many would find the justification for the action, and the blame would fall on Hamas!
Am I being sarcastic, or even cynical...possibly. But I truly believe that even some here would still stand and defend Israel should they decide to just get it over with.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Israel is going to bomb them wherever they go. War Criminals.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I have not read they're organizing a means of safe escape.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)"Well, we did give the children 30 seconds warning before we bombed the school into oblivion." Sick mfs.
Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)alsame
(7,784 posts)It's being attacked.
Ayman Mohyeldin @AymanM · 40m
Intense shelling in the heart of #Gaza city now
Ayman Mohyeldin @AymanM · 21s
explosions consistently heard along the beach road in vicinity of hotels that house foreign journalists #gaza #hamas #palestine #israel
https://twitter.com/AymanM/with_replies
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Response to alsame (Reply #9)
sabbat hunter This message was self-deleted by its author.
alsame
(7,784 posts)NBC reporter and that's his official Twitter account. He's in Gaza.
sabbat hunter
(6,835 posts)previous statement then
alsame
(7,784 posts)very skeptical of Tweets from unknown sources.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Latest updates (Monday):
2:15 A.M. Rocket alert sirens sound in Kerem Shalom, near the Gaza border.
1:27 A.M. Brazil's president is calling Israel's conflict with Hamas "a massacre."
Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff made the comment while speaking with local media outlets Monday from the presidential residence in Brasilia.
In an article posted on the website of the newspaper Folha de S. Paulo, Rousseff says that "I think what's happening in the Gaza Strip is dangerous. I don't think it's genocide, but I think it's a massacre." (AP)
1:02 A.M. Route 232 closed to traffic due to a suspected security incident. Residents in several communities told to remain in their homes. (Shirly Seidler and Gili Cohen)
11:52 P.M. The IDF releases the names of the four soldiers killed by mortar fire on the Gaza border earlier Monday: Staff Sgt. Eliav Eliyahu Haim Kahlon, 22, of Safed; Corporal Meidan Maymon Biton, 20, of Netivot; Corporal Niran Cohen, 20, of Tiberias; and Sgt. First Class Adi Briga, 23, of Beit Shikma.
11:41 P.M. Five killed and 20 wounded by shelling near the Islamic University in Khan Yunis, according to Palestinian reports. Earlier, three people were reportedly killed by shelling east of Khan Younis. (Jack Khoury)
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.607542
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Published:
24 Jul 2014
The offensive in the Gaza Strip has resulted in widespread injury to the civilian population. At the time of writing, and since the fighting began, at least 718 people have been killed, with most sources and estimates indicating that at least 70% of those killed were civilians who were not involved in the hostilities. Over 140,000 people have abandoned their homes and taken shelter in UNWRA buildings. In addition to serious damage to the water and electricity infrastructure, there has been serious damage to hospitals and medical institutions and destruction of residential buildings.
This appeal is concerned with the absence of any secure area in the Gaza Strip to which civilians can escape to protect their lives and ensure their safety and that of their families. We demand the immediate opening of an escape route for civilians to escape the battle zone.
Read full text of the letter
The organizations who signed the letter:
Adalah The Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel / Association for Civil Rights in Israel / Bimkom - Planners for Planning Rights / BTselem The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories / Gisha Legal Center for Freedom of Movement / HaMoked - Center for the Defence of the Individual / Machsom Watch / Physicians for Human Rights Israel / Public Committee Against Torture in Israel / Rabbis for Human Rights / Yesh Din Volunteers for Human Rights
http://www.btselem.org/press_release/20140724_joint_letter_on_evacuation
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)By
Tamer El-Ghobashy in Gaza City and
Joshua Mitnick in Tel Aviv
Updated July 28, 2014 7:30 p.m. ET
http://online.wsj.com/articles/israeli-strikes-on-gaza-break-lull-1406551863
bemildred
(90,061 posts)In recent days, especially on the background of Iran's "al-Quds [Jerusalem] Day" (25 July), senior Iranian officials have expressed their support for increasing military assistance to the terror organizations in the Gaza Strip, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Hizbullah, a client terrorist organization of Iran in Lebanon, also pledged support.
Iranian Parliamentary Speaker, Ali Larijani, admitted that Iran shared with [terror] organizations in Gaza its military technology which serves them in the current fighting and will keep on doing so. Larijani also said that Palestinians' clear needs are basic goods and weapons, and Iran is playing a significant role in supplying these essential needs.
(al-Alam, Iranian TV in Arabic, 27 July)
Iranian Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, said that "Tel Avivs unimaginable crimes show the innate reality of Israel, whose only cure is annihilation
Of course until then, Palestinians resolute, armed resistance and its expansion to the West Bank is the only way to confront this savage regime.
(Press TV, 28 July)
Under Supreme leader Khamenei 's instructions, Iranian Revolutionary Guards are promoting fund raising campaigns to assist Palestinians in smuggling weapons into the West Bank.
(Basij website, 27 July)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1407/S00314/iran-and-hizbullah-announce-military-support-for-gaza.htm
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)No wonder they're furious at Israel.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)is not what he wants to see.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)residential neighborhoods. But I wasn't sure where, and one doesn't like to speculate in public about such things, people will get upset. The attempts to terrorize the population in various ways suggest that too.
And that suggests that Bibi is going for it, going to try to create facts on the ground. I have a feeling the war has not been going well, from the point of view of meeting its objectives and in terms of the casualty figures, as well as the PR dimension.
Still can't really say what he means to do, not sure he knows exactly, but they are clearly freaked out about the tunnels and rockets and general inability to harm Hamas militarily in the desired way.
That may well be what Hamas wants him to do, to get down with them in the tunnels where the odds are more even.
Most unlikely to come out well.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)nilesobek
(1,423 posts)One thing that strikes me right away is that the people look underfed and malnourished. Also, how are we to know if the Israeli school and mosque bombings harmed Hamas or the tunnels at all?
It stinks like collective punishment, rage against the civilians who have no choice but to accept Hamas.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)nilesobek
(1,423 posts)they are starving too? When I saw the people mourning it was heartbreaking. I just had to put myself in their shoes for a moment to realize things could be a lot worse for me.
I got into an argument with a Jewish friend of mine today over this, he said the most hateful ugly things about the Palestinians. He's AWOL from the IDF but still totally supports Israel and sounded off like a Republican neo-con on steroids. But he's a homie and we're still friends, we smoked a bowl and chilled out, gave some concessions to each other. Why can't they do that over there?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)And I think that is because of two things, first that they lack the sort of intelligence inside Gaza which they once had (the surprise about the tunnels suggests that too), and second because the Hamas leadership has been down in the tunnels since the show started, as are the fighting squads.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)in more danger. Reporter there used the language, it was like they got a sick joke message/tweet to go there.
I will have to search for it from their website..it was so bizarre. Maybe I heard it wrong, but I don't think so.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)BEIT HANOUN, Gaza This narrow strip of land that used to be called the Gaza Strip, already one of the more densely populated places on earth, is growing dramatically smaller. The Israeli military, relentlessly and methodically, is driving people out of the three-kilometer (1.8 mile) buffer zone it says it needs to protect against Hamas rockets and tunnels. According to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, the buffer zone eats up about 44 percent of Gazas territory.
What that means on the ground is scenes of extraordinary devastation in places like the Al Shajaya district approaching Gazas eastern frontier, and Beit Hanoun in the north. These were crowded neighborhoods less than three weeks ago. Now they have been literally depopulated, the residents joining more than 160,000 internally displaced people in refuges and makeshift shelters. Apartment blocks are fields of rubble, and as I move through this hostile landscape the phrase that keeps ringing in my head is scorched earth.
Its not like Israel didnt plan this. It told tens of thousands of Palestinians to flee so its air force, artillery and tanks could create this uninhabitable no-mans land of half standing, burned-out buildings, broken concrete and twisted metal. During a brief humanitarian ceasefire some Gazans were able to come back to get their first glimpse of the destruction this war has brought to their communities, and to sift through their demolished homes to gather clothes or other scattered bits of their past lives. But many were not even able to do that.
When Rania Haels got within 60 feet of the debris that was once her family home in Al Shajaya on Saturday, a machine-gun on top of a nearby Israeli Merkava tank started firing. Probably these were warning shots pumped in her direction, but the 42-year-old mother of seven ran for her life. Now she stays with her family in an overcrowded parking garage in Gaza City and spends her days sitting in a public park full of refugees displaced by the Israeli push. Normally these would be festive times, the end of Ramadan is at hand and celebrations akin in spirit to Christmas festivities are beginning. But holidays have a way of intensifying tragedy. There is no place for Haelss family to gather to give gifts and eat Palestinian sweets. There is, in fact, no place for them at all.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/28/as-israel-enforces-its-buffer-zone-gaza-shrinks-by-40-per-cent.html
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I believe "tunnel" is Hebrew for "children".
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)By Haaretz | Jul. 29, 2014 | 3:31 AM
Latest updates (Tuesday):
3:31 A.M. Two rockets fall in open areas near Ashkelon. Two rockets additionally intercepted in the area. (Shirly Seidler)
3:05 A.M. Rocket alarm sirens in Ashkelon and Hof Ashkelon Regional Council.
2:52 A.M. One rocket falls in open area near Rishon Letzion, one rocket intercepted over Ashdod. (Gili Cohen and Shirly Seidler)
2:47 A.M. Israeli Air Force strikes Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh's house, according to the Gaza Interior Ministry. No casualties reported. (Reuters)
2:30 A.M. Rocket alarm sirens sound throughout Tel Aviv metropolitan area and central Israel.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1134&pid=73733
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Talks for a ceasefire, meanwhile, appeared stillborn after Israeli Prime Minister warned in a speech that the campaign could last long, even as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas rushed to Cairo to meet with Hamas representatives.
The renewed evening assault brought the total of Palestinians killed Monday to 44, while another 12 bodies were recovered from the rubble by medical teams earlier in the day.
Gaza Ministry of Health Spokesman said over the last 21 days, a total of 1,088 Palestinians have been killed and 6,470 have been injured. Of the dead, 251 have been children and 50 have been elderly, while 1,980 children and 259 elderly have been among the injured.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=716726
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)The Daily Star
BEIRUT: Grand Mufti Mohammad Rashid Qabbani used his Eid al-Fitr sermon to call for "jihad" to liberate Palestines sacred land from Jewish foreign occupation.
Jihad is the duty of each and every one of you no matter how much sacrifices are made, he said, while deploring Arab weakness and apathy in confronting the ongoing Israeli offensive on Gaza.
More than 1,000 Palestinians have been killed and over 6,000 injured in three weeks of fighting between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Some 43 Israeli soldiers also died in the violence.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2014/Jul-28/265360-qabbani-calls-for-jihad-to-liberate-palestine.ashx
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Fuck Netanyahu. That's probably next.