Israel/Palestine
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Democracy Now
Tuesday, August 5, 2014
Transcript
AARON MATÉ: Israel has pulled its ground forces from the Gaza Strip as a 72-hour ceasefire takes hold. In addition, Israeli and Palestinian factions have agreed to attend talks in Cairo on a longer-term agreement. Gaza officials say at least 1,865 Palestinians, most of them civilians, died during Israels offensive, which began on July 8th. Israel says 64 of its soldiers and three civilians have been killed. Nearly a quarter of Gazas 1.8 million resident were displaced during the assault, which destroyed more than 3,000 homes.
Earlier today, the Israeli military sent out a message reading, quote: "Mission accomplished: We have destroyed Hamas tunnels leading from Gaza into Israel. All of Israel is now safer." Palestinians coming home to their neighborhoods report massive amounts of destruction.
GAZA RESIDENT: [translated] I am destroyed. Im shocked. I have heart problems, and then I saw our house. We were all shocked. We dont know what to do. Look at our houses and our children. Everything is destroyed, four apartments. All my children are stranded in the schools. Where are we supposed to go?
AMY GOODMAN: In other developments, a prominent Foreign Office minister in Britain, Sayeeda Warsi, has resigned, saying Britains policy on the crisis in Gaza is, quote, "morally indefensible." In an interview with The Huffington Post, Warsi criticized Britain for pressuring Palestinian leadership not to seek justice at the International Criminal Court. On Monday, Human Rights Watch urged Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to seek ICC jurisdiction over crimes committed on and from Palestinian territory. The group detailed multiple examples of Israeli soldiers shooting and killing fleeing civilians in Gaza.
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/5/ceasefire_after_gaza_assault_leaves_1800
bunnies
(15,859 posts)I guess we know who lost the PR war. Time to put the mask back on for a bit? Good luck with that.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)"Mission Accomplished".
NYC_SKP
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Second, might want to quantify - I doubt Israel wants to kill off all the Palestinians... but that it DOES want to destroy them as a people. Liquidation of the concept of "Palestinian" rather than of the individuals themselves.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)Shaktimaan
(5,397 posts)ellenrr
(3,864 posts)abovesobelow
(73 posts)Gaza conflict: Hamas chooses to let children die for its own crazy ends
" The main argument presented by Israel's critics can be summarised in a single sentence: Not enough of your children are dying.
I refuse to apologise for that, but I urge you to remember that while our children may not be dying, it is not for Hamass lack of trying.
Since the beginning of the last round of fighting, thousands of rockets have been launched at Israeli cities, armed terrorists have attempted to execute mass attacks in villages by the border and hundreds of mortars have been aimed at kindergartens and schools. The only reason these attempts at mass killing are not making an impression is that Hamas has failed. The Israeli Defence Forces land and air operation, along with Iron Dome, the anti-missile defence system developed by Israel, prevented us from gaining the worlds sympathy in return for images of mutilated Jewish children. Given a choice between sympathetic news coverage and the lives of our children, I choose life.
Hamas chooses otherwise.
Western eyes and ears consider it a dubious choice, but Hamas never hid its position on the matter: it has no problem with Palestinian children dying, so long as it serves its political objectives. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10987095/Gaza-conflict-Hamas-chooses-to-let-children-die-for-its-own-crazy-ends.html
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Regarding the diplomatic stalemate in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, Lapid said that "Most of the blame belongs to the Palestinian side, and I am not sure that they as a people are ready to make peace with us."[25] He has, however, dismissed as unrealistic the possibility of a comprehensive peace deal with the Palestinians.[26]
In a May 19, 2013 interview with New York Times correspondent Jodi Rudoren,[27] Lapid said that:
".. Israel should not change its policy on Israeli settlements in the West Bank in order to revive the stalemated peace process"
"..Jerusalem should not serve as the capital of a future Palestinian state"
"..he would not stop the so-called natural expansion of settlements in the West Bank, nor curtail the financial incentives offered Israelis to move there"
"..the large swaths of land known as East Jerusalem that Israel captured from Jordan in the 1967 war and later annexed must stay Israeli because we didnt come here for nothing."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yair_Lapid
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)ellenrr
(3,864 posts)congratulations. just when it seems the world might sit up and take notice, that is when they stop.
But "truce" fools a lot of people.
Even someone who demonstrated with me, says, "No need for more demos now that there is peace."
wtf?
I was watching Euronews and seeing the bombed out craters drove me to look up images of Dresden. I was thinking, "It's as bad as Dresden."
Wrong. It's worse. In Dresden you can see structures recognizable as houses.
In bombed areas of Palestine, there is nothing recognizable as once being a human habitation. Of course, as human habitation, there wasn't much that was structurally sound to begin with.
And what about the wounded - no medicine.
And no electricity, no water.
The trouble is - this keeps being repeated - while the bombs fall, people talk about Palestine. The bombs stop, and (most) people move on to the next disaster.
Israel knows this.