Israel/Palestine

Mosby

(16,319 posts) Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:00 AM Oct 2014

New Poll: 75% of Israeli Jews Oppose a Palestinian State on the 1967 Lines, Israeli Withdrawal...

New Poll: 75% of Israeli Jews Oppose a Palestinian State on the 1967 Lines, Israeli Withdrawal from the Jordan Valley, and the Division of Jerusalem

Since 2005, the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs has conducted opinion polls on the peace process, Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 lines, continued Israeli control of the Jordan Valley, and the proposed division of Jerusalem.

According to the latest poll conducted on October 12-14, 2014, by Shivukim-Panorama for the Jerusalem Center, 75% of the Israeli Jewish public continue to oppose Israel’s withdrawal from the Jordan Valley and the division of Jerusalem.

Moreover, the rise of the Islamic State in the Middle East has made the Israeli public even less ready for territorial concessions in the West Bank. While 70% report that the rise of the Islamic State (ISIS) has not affected their position, 17% say it has made them less ready for concessions, while 5% say they are more ready for concessions.

Some 75% of Israeli Jews oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state if it means an Israeli withdrawal from the Jordan Valley. A similar percentage would oppose the replacement of the IDF with international forces in the Jordan Valley. Notably, 52% of Israelis who identify with “the left” oppose the replacement of the IDF with international forces in the Jordan Valley.

Overall, 74% of Israeli Jews oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state on the 1967 lines, while 76% oppose a Palestinian state if it means the division of Jerusalem.

- See more at: http://jcpa.org/poll-israeli-jews-oppose-palestinian-state/#sthash.BnplQKgb.dpuf

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New Poll: 75% of Israeli Jews Oppose a Palestinian State on the 1967 Lines, Israeli Withdrawal... (Original Post) Mosby Oct 2014 OP

A similar number of Alabama whites opposed integration, I imagine Scootaloo Oct 2014 #1

Of course the did... AceWheeler Oct 2014 #2

Well, the whites were convinced that's exactly what would happen Scootaloo Oct 2014 #3

Thank you for posting this azurnoir Oct 2014 #4

Yup .... Israeli Oct 2014 #5

so what to do now? azurnoir Oct 2014 #6

The general consensus is to .... Israeli Oct 2014 #7

I suppose it's possible how popular is Naftali Bennett or Ayelette Shakeed? azurnoir Oct 2014 #9

Right now .... Israeli Oct 2014 #10

What are the numbers among Israeli non-Jews? oberliner Oct 2014 #8

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

1. A similar number of Alabama whites opposed integration, I imagine

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:07 AM

Oct 2014

AceWheeler

(55 posts)

2. Of course the did...

Reply to Scootaloo (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:36 AM

Oct 2014

...because they knew those black folks who wanted to "integrate" had stated they were out to destroy them. Yeah, right.

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

3. Well, the whites were convinced that's exactly what would happen

Reply to AceWheeler (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:46 AM

Oct 2014

And there were of course extremist blacks who did advocate such "retribution" that htey used to stoke those fears.

All part of the process of maintaining power, Acewheeler.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

4. Thank you for posting this

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:23 AM

Oct 2014

for courage as it shows where things are really at

Israeli

(4,151 posts)

5. Yup ....

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:56 AM

Oct 2014

My point exactly azurnoir......it sure shows where things are really at :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113484492

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

6. so what to do now?

Reply to Israeli (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 03:33 AM

Oct 2014

I'm sorry it has come to this point

Israeli

(4,151 posts)

7. The general consensus is to ....

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 05:33 AM

Oct 2014

...wait for new elections and everything will miraculously change ....but will it ?

Read what an American born liberal Zionist has to say about that :

http://972mag.com/after-kerry-only-bds-may-save-the-two-state-solution/91048/

Even if Herzog (or Livni, or Lapid) could get elected to lead a center-left government with Meretz and Arabs and all sorts of other good people – which is unlikely; polls show Netanyahu and the right gaining popularity because the public blames the Palestinians for the peace talks’ failure – such a government could not end the occupation and carry out the two-state solution. The reason is that neither a Herzog government nor any other government in today’s Israel can do what’s necessary to meet the Palestinians’ demands, which are backed by the entire world (myself included), and which involve, but are by no means limited to, the removal of between roughly 100,000 and 170,000 settlers from the West Bank.

Pessimism abounds azurnoir .

And what if we get a Gov that is even more Right wing than this one ?.....

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

9. I suppose it's possible how popular is Naftali Bennett or Ayelette Shakeed?

Reply to Israeli (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 07:24 AM

Oct 2014

right now it seems that the right wing has quite a firm grip on control in Israel

Israeli

(4,151 posts)

10. Right now ....

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:36 AM

Oct 2014

....they do , they are in charge after all azurnoir.

There is not much to go by to answer your question except the latest Knesset polls :

http://knessetjeremy.com/2014/10/05/channel-2-poll-23-netanyahu-15-bennett-10-herzog-9-liberman-8-livni-7-kachlon-4-lapid/

More interesting to me is the 24% that says " None."

Israel needs a strong leader ....the problem with the Centre/Left block is that there is nobody that is seen to be strong enough to lead. Anyone that anyone has any faith left in that is .
We need another Rabin to unite us .....it is a block that is constantly at odds with each other and is divided and fragmented ....the Right know how to unite that is their strength and our weakness.

Recently there has been talk about bringing back Ehud Barak ....that is how bad it is !!
Far as I am concerned that is a huge joke ....they are out of their minds to even consider him .

Anyhow....its impossible to predict an Israeli election or the next PM ....for sure wont be Livni or Lapid tho .....their day is done.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

8. What are the numbers among Israeli non-Jews?

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 07:05 AM

Oct 2014

I'd be curious to see that as well.

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