Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forum4 Israel lobby stakes claim for Jerusalem at Supreme Court, but Kagan isn’t buying
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/11/jerusalem-supreme-buying---
Described as both a proxy war for U.S. foreign policy toward Israel, a foreign policy minefield, and a massive smack down between the congressional and executive branches the implications of the Supreme Court ruling could have lasting repercussions not just to US politics, our national interest, and separation of powers regarding the dominant voice in US foreign affairs, but damage to the Middle East could be devastating.
Obamas Solicitor General, Don Verrilli, argued the status of Jerusalem is the most vexing and volatile and difficult diplomatic issue that this nation has faced for decades and suggested US credibility could hinge on the outcome:
[T]he fact of the matter is that the parties in the region, the nations in the region, and frankly people around the world and governments around the world scrutinize every word that comes out of the United States Government and every action that the United States Government takes in order to see whether we can continue to be trusted as an honest broker who could stand apart from this conflict and help bring it to resolution.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan cut to the heart of the matter:
JUSTICE KAGAN: I take it, Ms. Lewin, when you say the West Bank, I take it you think that Congress could pass the identical statute with respect to a child born in Hebron, say.
MS. LEWIN: Saying that
JUSTICE KAGAN: That that, too, is Israel?
MS. LEWIN: Correct.
JUSTICE KAGAN: Yes. Okay.
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The entire matter could be quite easily solved by the birth certificate stating born in West Jerusalem Israel
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)of the Palestinian people's land.
sabbat hunter
(6,835 posts)West Jerusalem is not Israeli land?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)because I have not read that anywhere could you give us a link with that reference?
sabbat hunter
(6,835 posts)as West Jerusalem. It would say Jerusalem. Just as one from Palestine would if someone was born in the Eastern portions (just substitute in Palestine for Israel), once the eastern portions are returned to a future state of Palestine. (except for the old city).
So it should say Jerusalem, Israel.
Edit: my OP should have said western Jerusalem,not west Jerusalem.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)sabbat hunter
(6,835 posts)even if Palestine were to get the eastern parts of what is referred to as Jerusalem, the remaining Israeli portion would still be called Jerusalem. Palestine would probably call their part Al-Quds, which is the commonly used Arabic name for it. That is how it is currently referred to for the most part in Arabic.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)who gets what in the future really doesn't matter
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)I was playing with Legos at his age. This is the second time he's been in major litigation, and all because his parents see fit to use him as a pawn in their own struggle.
King_David
(14,851 posts)He probably wishes he was just playing Lego.