You have evidence these leaders reactions that are referenced are lies? Then link to it.

Bibi vs US leaders reactions:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rubbed in the insult by threatening Israeli Arabs: “We will not tolerate disturbances and rioting. We will act against those who throw stones, block roads and call for the establishment of a Palestinian state in place of the State of Israel. Whoever does not honor Israeli law will be punished with utmost severity. …

...of the population openly committed to maiming or murdering innocents who make up the majority of the population. No segment of American society calls for such attacks on innocents while calling on America to be destroyed.

Of course in your view, Israel and its citizens have no reason to be concerned about their security, ever. It's all bogus. I'd put that on par with Holocaust denial.

...and that Israel wasn't defensive in '67 but the aggressor.

Means so much.



Then again, I expect nothing less from someone who lacks the ability to respond to an argument with something logical or facual.

Begin was as radical as one could hope for in Israel.

...of the Sinai.

Yep, much worse than Hamas.

Hamas accepted two states based on '67 lines in 2008.

No they have not amended their charter, nor has Likud. Likud does
not want any deal, even when it serves them well..ask Kerry.

That's a fucking lie, as they've repeated many times before and since 2008 that what they want is Israel destroyed and its Jews murdered.

and the second terrorist to be elected PM of Israel the first was Yitzhak Shamir . Like it or not fits your narrative or not today's terrorist can be tomorrows peace maker

Begin; 16 August 1913 – 9 March 1992) was an Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of the State of Israel. Before the creation of the state of Israel, he was the leader of the Zionist militant group Irgun, the Revisionist breakaway from the larger Jewish paramilitary organization Haganah. He proclaimed a revolt, on 1 February 1944, against the British mandatory government, which was opposed by the Jewish Agency. As head of the Irgun, he targeted the British in Palestine.[1]

Begin’s most significant achievement as Prime Minister was the signing of a peace treaty with Egypt in 1979, for which he and Anwar Sadat shared the Nobel Prize for Peace. In the wake of the Camp David Accords, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula, which was captured from Egypt in the Six-Day War. Later, Begin’s government promoted the construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Begin authorized the bombing of the Osirak nuclear plant in Iraq and the invasion of Lebanon in 1982 to fight PLO strongholds there, igniting the 1982 Lebanon War. As Israeli military involvement in Lebanon deepened, and the Sabra and Shatila massacre, carried out by Christian Phalangist militia allies of the Israelis, shocked world public opinion,[2] Begin grew increasingly isolated.[3] As IDF forces remained mired in Lebanon and the economy suffered from hyperinflation, the public pressure on Begin mounted. Depressed by the death of his wife Aliza in November 1982, he gradually withdrew from public life, until his resignation in October 1983.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin

I thought you were totally down with the Arabs.

After all, it seems as though Arab Israelis are a model minority, as you say.

If it were a someone who looked Jewish, I think at worst they'd have shot at his legs.

" Looks shady though. "

Let me clear it up for you :

A mutation of the Hannibal procedure has made its way to Jerusalem

The violence will only increase until despair replaces hope. But what does the current Israeli government care about hope?

Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovich’s praise for the officer who shot and killed a Palestinian terrorist in Jerusalem was clear:

“The action of the Border Police officer who chased the terrorist and quickly killed him is the right and professional action, and that is the way I would like these incidents to end,” he said. “A terrorist who strikes civilians should be killed.”

We (and the rest of the world) saw the minister’s unofficial instructions implemented in a clip showing police shooting Khayr al-Din Hamdan after he attacked a police van with a knife.

In fact, if the killing of Arabs interested Israel’s Jews, they would be expected to be suspicious of the statement by the Shin Bet security service and the police the day after right-wing activist Yehuda Glick was shot.

According to the Shin Bet and the police, a police Special Forces squad tried to arrest the suspect, Muatez Hijazi, at his home in the Abu Tor neighborhood of Jerusalem. Hijazi was shot dead after he opened fire on the squad members, the two agencies said.

But no video clip was released that explains what the police and Shin Bet mean when they say that Hijazi was shot while the authorities were trying to arrest him. Perhaps that’s the reason that their statement was accepted at face value.

Aharonvich’s statement and its application on the ground show that the authorities simply want these incidents to end - with the terrorist killed at the scene rather than brought into the justice system.

The state treats Arab Israelis who attack Jews like enemies, not criminals. The proof? Prime Minister Netanyahu wants to revoke their citizenships and send them to the Palestinian Authority, “or even to Gaza.”

The state also wants to make clear that it does not want them as prisoners. Indeed, the best way to avoid releasing prisoners is not to arrest them to begin with.

And what is this approach if not a mutation of the virus called the “Hannibal procedure”?

During Operation Protective Edge, a debate about the Hannibal procedure raged, focused mainly on the circumstances of the death of the abducted IDF soldier Lt. Hadar Goldin during the fighting in Rafah.

At the time many people wondered about the legitimacy of the Hannibal procedure: the unofficial Israel Defense Forces policy of preventing the abduction of a soldier even at the cost of killing the soldier.

It is no wonder, then, that a country that prefers a dead Israeli soldier over an abducted one would also prefer a dead Arab terrorist over an arrested one.

Aharonovich’s words carry a logic similar to that of the Hannibal procedure, which more than anything else expresses deep despair.

After the nerve-wracking worry about Gilad Shalit, the soldier kidnapped by Hamas and held for more than five years, the state could not bear launching another painful adventure that would have extracted what many would have perceived as too high a price - the release of prisoners who had killed Israelis.

That same despair has taken hold now. After the wars, the intifadas, the terrible summer of Protective Edge, society has no strength left to contain another outbreak of resistance, on yet another front.

Aharonovich’s statement expresses the false hope that such incidents can be ended at the scene; that a targeted killing of the incident itself can be carried out, as if it were not a link in the chain of reality that Israel has been a partner in creating.

But Israeli Jews are not the only ones who are desperate. Despair has also taken hold of Israeli Arabs and certainly of the Palestinians in the territories.

The general despair reflects a leadership vacuum. In such an atmosphere procedures and instructions will not help, nor will beefed-up army and police forces.

Every “killing” of an incident only portends the next one. The violence will only increase until despair is exchanged for hope.

But what does the current Israeli government care about hope?

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.625920

you are hysterical shira ......Israeli Arabs are not Zionists ...I mean really ..where do you get your weird ideas from ???

....a Jewish Democratic State.

I'm waiting.

...what you want to believe ....and not seeing the reality :

" Over the past year, several Israeli Arab organizations, including Adalah and the Mossawa Center, have published proposals for a new "multicultural" constitution.

However, the poll also revealed that Israeli Arab support for defining Israel as a Jewish and democratic state has eroded in recent years. In 2004, some 55 percent of those in favor of such a constitution said that they felt strongly about their position, while in 2007, only 34 percent did so.

Israeli Arab support for a constitution in general stood at 88 percent, with 72 percent saying they feel equality should be prominently featured in the text.

They are not Zionists, but Israelis shira ....same as I am Israeli but not a Zionist .

How can they be Zionists for gods sake ? !!!
I have lived and worked with Israeli Arabs all of my life and have yet to meet one who would describe himself as a Zionist ....its nonsensical shira .

Anyhow you are not going to believe me so read this :

http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/israels-arabs-not-zionists-israelis-9711

Zionism is support of a Jewish state. I realize you don't support a Jewish state but 75% of Arab Israelis do.

I'm sorry the facts don't support your POV.

Israel Proper that is ...which does not include the Wild West Bank shira .

The facts dont support your POV but there again I very much doubt that you have ever met an Israeli Arab .

Israeli-Arabs feel left out of national anthem

Lyrics of Hatikva form focal point for argument over identity as Arab MKs claim symbols of state must connect with whole of country, not just one part of it

The scene in the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, was not typical on Monday. Dozens of Arab women, most of them from villages in northern Israel wearing traditional dress, packed into the Galil Hall for a discussion about Israel’s national anthem, Hatikva, (The Hope).

They came alone, without their husbands, and participated frequently in the discussion. Many of the speakers, which included several Arab members of Knesset, said the lyrics of the anthem are alien to them.

“The symbols of the state must connect with the whole country and not just one part of it,” Afu Aghbaria, a member of parliament from the Hadash party told The Media Line. “This song just doesn’t represent me.”

Aghbaria, along with the Citizen’s Accord Forum, organized the gathering to discuss the question of Arab citizens and the anthem. It is not the first time the issue has been raised in Israel. In February, when the new Israeli government was sworn in, 10 of the 12 Arab members of the incoming parliament walked out before the national anthem was sung, sparking controversy.

Of the two who stayed, Hamad Amar is from the Druze community and a member of the right-wing Yisrael Beiteinu party. While the Druze are Arabic-speaking they do not consider themselves to be “Arabs.” Unlike the vast majority of Israel’s Arab citizens, Druze citizens serve in the army.

The other lawmaker who stayed was Issawi Frej, from the dovish Meretz party. The other 10, including Aghbaria, are members of Arab parties or the joint Jewish-Arab Hadash party, associated with the Communist movement.

Last year in another case, Israel’s sole Arab Supreme Court justice Salim Jubran stood, but did not sing Hatikva at a swearing-in ceremony for the new chief justice.

Israel defines itself as a Jewish, democratic state. Some on the panel said that is inherently a contradiction for the 20% of Israel’s citizens who are Arabs.

Growing racism

On one hand, Arabic is one of Israel’s official languages, although some legislators are trying to change that. Arab citizens vote in elections and pay taxes, yet many say they are not completely equal. The wording of the national anthem which refers to the “Jewish soul” is just one example of what Israeli Arabs find difficult to embrace.

“There is growing racism against Arabs in Israeli society,” Aghbaria charged. “Even when we were under military rule (in the years after the state was created) there was not this much racism against us.”

As an example, Aghbaria cited the Law of Return which grants automatic citizenship to anyone with one Jewish grandparent. Yet, if an Arab citizen of Israel marries a Palestinian from the West Bank, his spouse is usually not given Israeli citizenship.

When it comes to employment, only about 7% of state employees are Arabs. Average wages for Arabs are 40% lower than for Jews, according to the Israeli government.

Continue reading @
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4397079,00.html


Post-zionism shira ..........

Is it really possible to have both a Jewish state and a democracy? Should Israel become a state of all its citizens?

Is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict entirely black-and-white? Did Israel always maximize its efforts to obtain peace? Should all the blame for the continuation of the conflict fall on the Arab side?

Mainly after the Oslo Accords, a new movement started amongst a large section of left-wing Israelis who believe that the state of Israel should no longer declare itself to be a Jewish democratic state and should rather focus on its democratic aspects. This movement seeks to create social equality in Israel.

In contrast to political Zionism's goal of the Jewish state, many post-Zionists advocate the evolution of Israel into a non-ideological, secular, liberal democratic state, to be officially neither Jewish nor Arab in character.

Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Zionism

So no, your views do not correspond with the vast majority of Israeli Arabs - much as you may want them to.

LOL.


Noted Arab Citizens Call on Israel to Shed Jewish Identity

" According to a poll of Arab Israelis by the Yafa
Institute, commissioned by the Konrad Adenauer Program for
Jewish-Arab Cooperation, only 14 percent of respondents
said they thought Israel should remain a Jewish and
democratic state in its current format; 25 percent wanted
a Jewish and democratic state that guarantees full
equality to its Arab citizens. But some 57 percent said
they wanted a change in the character and definition of
the state, whether to become a `state for all its
citizens,` a binational state, or a consensual democracy."

Source : http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=18258

I have just read your comments here .....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=63618

....believe what you want to believe ....I dont care .

You American Zionists on here are just so living in cloud cookoo land it takes my breath away .

Seriously I should thank you ....you are the perfect example of why post-zionism was created .

essentially lying.