Israel/Palestine

azurnoir

(45,850 posts) Wed Apr 25, 2012, 01:14 PM Apr 2012

Joint Israeli-Palestinian Memorial Day event blasted as ‘insult to citizens’

In response to a joint Israeli-Palestinian memorial ceremony organized by “Combatants for Peace” in the Tel Aviv Harbor, Naomi Enoch, chair of the state-owned company that operates the harbor, said that the ceremony was an outrage, and condemned its participants. In the last year, 67 Palestinians were killed by Israel, and four Israeli citizens were killed by Palestinians.

“Combatants for Peace,” a movement of Israeli and Palestinian ex-fighters devoted to reconciliation, ending the occupation and peace, holds a ceremony each year on the eve Israeli Memorial Day in commemoration of everyone who died in the conflict. This year, the event was held in the Tel Aviv Harbor, a trendy outdoor mall full of shops and restaurants and run by a state-owned company called “Otzar Mif’aley Yam” (Treasure of Sea Initiatives). When Enoch, chair of the company’s board, heard about this, she released the following statement:

"Memorial Day is meant to honor the memory of Israeli casualties in war and terror attacks. As a government company, we believe that any attempt to link the memory of fallen IDF soldiers with Palestinians who have been killed is an insult to the citizens of this state, to the memory of the fallen and to the bereaved families. It is a pity that the organizers of this ceremony do not feel compassion for residents of Israel, its citizens and the bereaved families, and choose to desecrate the holiness of the fallen. Unfortunately, the event is held within a private business in the harbor, and the company has no way of stopping it. The only thing we can do is show our discontent with those groups who consider themselves ‘humane’ yet choose to kick the values on which they were brought up, ignoring the feelings of the public on this holy day."

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According to the IDF Spokesperson’s Unit, 16,774 Israeli soldiers have died since the founding of the state in 1948, including 50 in the last year. As these deaths include those resulting from accidents, disease, suicide (in the last decade, an average of 30 soldiers committed suicide each year), suicide bombings and combat – I asked the IDF to send a breakdown of the causes of death of these 50 soldiers. The request was denied.

http://972mag.com/joint-israeli-palestinian-memorial-day-event-blasted-as-insult-to-citizens/43504/

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Joint Israeli-Palestinian Memorial Day event blasted as ‘insult to citizens’ (Original Post) azurnoir Apr 2012 OP

Sounds like a good thing to me. Lawlbringer Apr 2012 #1

you would think azurnoir Apr 2012 #2

All militaries have high suicide rates Lawlbringer Apr 2012 #3

methinks you misunderstand azurnoir Apr 2012 #5

Is 972Mag the new Mondoweiss? oberliner Apr 2012 #4

huh? +972 is simply a blog albeit a leftist one azurnoir Apr 2012 #6

Mondoweiss is also simply a blog oberliner Apr 2012 #7

"Trying to keep track of how the minions are being directed these days." huh? azurnoir Apr 2012 #8

Minions of anti-hasbarists oberliner Apr 2012 #9

sorry but I really don't know what to say to that azurnoir Apr 2012 #13

Thanks for having a sense of humor oberliner Apr 2012 #15

Apostrophe ... bemildred Apr 2012 #10

thanks azurnoir Apr 2012 #11

Yep, "some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints", as they say. bemildred Apr 2012 #12

yep just wears your teeth out azurnoir Apr 2012 #14

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)

1. Sounds like a good thing to me.

Reply to azurnoir (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 01:46 PM

Apr 2012

As a government company, we believe that any attempt to link the memory of fallen IDF soldiers with Palestinians who have been killed is an insult to the citizens of this state, to the memory of the fallen and to the bereaved families.

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't humanizing the other side (and in this case, having each side recognize the suffering of the other) a very strong step toward peace? Not to say that this is the end of the conflict, but it's certainly a step in the right direction. No?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

2. you would think

Reply to Lawlbringer (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:48 PM

Apr 2012

but I guess humanizing Palestinian is not to be allowed

however I did find the suicide rate for IDF somewhat surprising

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)

3. All militaries have high suicide rates

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:26 PM

Apr 2012

why lump that in as the fault of the Palestinians?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

5. methinks you misunderstand

Reply to Lawlbringer (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 06:11 PM

Apr 2012

Ineither I nor the article lump that in as the Palestinians fault for me it is merely a surprise, we have an IDF reservist who posts here and from I read of their posts IDF is the ultimate service to Israel and the same poster has stated in the past that IDF has replaced other institutions as a social cohesive in Israel

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

4. Is 972Mag the new Mondoweiss?

Reply to azurnoir (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 06:04 PM

Apr 2012

Orders from the anti-hasbara brigade?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

6. huh? +972 is simply a blog albeit a leftist one

Reply to oberliner (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 06:12 PM

Apr 2012

is that why you apparently disapprove of what these Israeli's (for the most part) have to say?

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

7. Mondoweiss is also simply a blog

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 06:13 AM

Apr 2012

A lot of overlap between the two sites. Especially in the comment thread.

Just wondering if the anti-hasbara handlers gave orders to switch over to posting articles from 972mag instead of Mondoweiss on sites like this one.

Trying to keep track of how the minions are being directed these days.

By the way, apostrophe is used for possessive, not plural.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

8. "Trying to keep track of how the minions are being directed these days." huh?

Reply to oberliner (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 09:08 AM

Apr 2012

minions of what?

Now there is a difference between Mondoweiss and +972 in that Mondo is what could be called a 'vanity' blog, being that it is run by and named for Philip Weiss, whereas +972 is run by a conglomerate of different writers and is dedicated to none of them as individuals

my use of the apostrophe was intended to be both plural and possessive

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

9. Minions of anti-hasbarists

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 09:12 AM

Apr 2012

Hard to keep track of what is in the playbook these days. The marching orders from Ali Abuminah and friends. The BDS community instructions and guidelines.

You used the apostrophe incorrectly.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)

13. sorry but I really don't know what to say to that

Reply to oberliner (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 04:34 PM

Apr 2012

Ali hasn't me the day's orders yet, perhaps because he knows we've been 'found out'

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

15. Thanks for having a sense of humor

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 05:52 PM

Apr 2012

I hope you appreciate the point I was making.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

10. Apostrophe ...

Reply to azurnoir (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 09:18 AM

Apr 2012

Might possible should be: Israelis', for plural possessive, to avoid Israelis's, but I'd have to look it up, and if I remember right, otherwise reasonable people fight over that issue.