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Related: About this forumNorwegian doc vows to defy Israeli ban from Gaza
Citing security reasons, Israel prevented entry into Gaza last month of Mads Gilbert, an outspoken critic who treated Palestinians during the summer war.By Haaretz | Nov. 16, 2014 |
A Norwegian doctor plans to defy an indefinite ban to enter Gaza that Israel recently placed on him, Euronews reported Sunday.
Anti-occupation activist Mads Gilbert, who has been treating Palestinians in Gaza for 15 years, was last in the territory during Israel's summer offensive, known as Operation Protective Edge. Israel subsequently banned him from Gaza, citing security reasons, and refused him entry in October, according to various reports by European news outlets.
The Norwegian embassy in Tel Aviv announced that it would challenge the ban, Euronews reported.
Norway's secretary of state, Bard Glad Pedersen, was quoted by The Local news website's Norway edition as telling Verdens Gang newspaper: From the Norwegian perspective, we have raised Gilbert's exclusion from Gaza and asked Israel to change their decision. The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still difficult and there is a need for all health workers.
Gilbert penned a protest letter in the medical journal The Lancet in the name of 24 physicians in July. "On the basis of our ethics and practice, we are denouncing what we witness in the aggression of Gaza by Israel," the signatories declared.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.626697
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Why go through Israel?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)http://www.haaretz.com/1.626441
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Security risk.
I would not be comfortable flying on the same plane as this dude.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)He has been identified as a security risk, hopefully the USA also reacts to the threat as appropriately as Israel has here.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Gaza , Australia Canada and the UK
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)From post #8 you seem to be implying that Dr. Mads Gilbert is going to conduct some sort of terrorist attack. Maybe I'm reading incorrectly. Could you take a paragraph or two to explain what you're saying?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Supported the terror attacks of 9-11 .
Slippery slope , he's definitly a risk.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Of anyone but especially a security risk.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Are there any other opinions you feel warrant a ban for entry?
MFM008
(19,816 posts)The man is a DR.only putting the Palestinians who were blown up by the IDF back together? Yeah thats a real terrorist.
King_David
(14,851 posts)About his support for September 11 terrorists and the attack.
Yep a real upstanding doctor.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Gilbert
Dangerous.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)at least from corners here in the US
King_David
(14,851 posts)You agree with what this dude said about 9-11 ?
Think it was justified in ANY context?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)His statement to Dagbladet was: "The attack on New York did not come as a surprise with the politics the West has followed the last decades. I am upset by the terrorist attack, but I am at least as upset over the suffering that the US has caused. It is in this context that 5000 dead has to be seen. If the U.S. government has a legitimate right to bomb and kill civilians in Iraq, the oppressed has a moral right to attack the U.S. with the weapons they may create as well. Dead civilians are the same whether they are Americans, Palestinians or Iraqis." When asked if he supported a terrorist attack against the US he answered: "Terror is a poor weapon, but my answer is yes, within the context I have mentioned."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Gilbert
I can understand quite fully where some might disagree about dead civilians especially Arab/Palestinian
King_David
(14,851 posts)Let's hope they taking the same precautions as Israel is .
No need to take chances.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)I'm pretty sure he would not be the 1st foreign supporter of the 9-11 attack to be barred from the USA .
Why would he be granted a visa after what he has said to the press? It's not worth the potential risk.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)no terror plots or attacks even remotely linked to him
On U.S. Tour, Dr. Mads Gilbert Gives Eyewitness Account of Gaza Massacre
http://www.wrmea.org/2009-july/on-u.s.-tour-dr.-mads-gilbert-gives-eyewitness-account-of-gaza-massacre.html
King_David
(14,851 posts)I'm pretty sure they missed the pertinent info tho..
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)could it be his statement to Dagbladet, I do understand how some would be upset at his equating dead Palestinian/Arab civilians to dead US citizens
His statement to Dagbladet was: "The attack on New York did not come as a surprise with the politics the West has followed the last decades. I am upset by the terrorist attack, but I am at least as upset over the suffering that the US has caused. It is in this context that 5000 dead has to be seen. If the U.S. government has a legitimate right to bomb and kill civilians in Iraq, the oppressed has a moral right to attack the U.S. with the weapons they may create as well. Dead civilians are the same whether they are Americans, Palestinians or Iraqis." When asked if he supported a terrorist attack against the US he answered: "Terror is a poor weapon, but my answer is yes, within the context I have mentioned."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Gilbert
King_David
(14,851 posts)Where you get that from?
But if someone is a fan of 9-11 terror he's a threat to all of us in the USA .
Carry in if you wish but I'm done , I think it's pretty obvious to all.
CYa
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and why attack and dash? unless CYa wasn't a personal attack on me as it appears to be intended along with an accusation of being a fan of terror, I have nothing to cover for though
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cya
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Where you get that from?
But if someone is a fan of 9-11 terror he's a threat to all of us in the USA .
Carry in if you wish but I'm done , I think it's pretty obvious to all.
CYa
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113487643#post31
King_David
(14,851 posts)Was talking about Mads Gilbert being a fan of 9-11 terrorists, not you.
And surely you don't believe Obama micromanage everyone allowed into the country ?
Hopefully he is barred from traveling here now.
Cheers , now I'm outta here.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Like in the bombing of Mikes Place ,they came from the UK....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike's_Place_suicide_bombing
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Israeli officials told Mads Gilbert that he was banned indefinitely when he tried to re-enter Gaza via the Erez crossing last month. Photograph: Mahmud Hams/AFP/Getty Images
A Norwegian trauma surgeon and activist who helped provide life-saving medical care during this summers 100-day war in Gaza has said he will defy an Israeli ban on his return.
Chief surgeon Mads Gilbert, 67, has spent 15 years treating patients in Gaza and spent 51 days in Shifa hospital earlier this year treating many of the 11,000 Palestinians who were wounded in the war between Hamas and Israel.
When he returned last month to try and enter Gaza via the Erez crossing in Israel he was denied entry indefinitely.
The Israeli government now says Gilbert is banned from entering Gaza for security reasons. The Norwegian embassy in Tel Aviv has taken up Gilberts case on his behalf after he was refused entry in October.
When we came back to the Erez border station the Israeli soldiers told me I was not allowed to go into Gaza, he told media.
I had a valid permit for multiple entries, an invitation from the Palestinian Ministry of Health and a recommendation from the director at my hospital.
In a written statement, Norways Secretary of State, Bard Glad Pedersen, said: From the Norwegian perspective, we have raised Gilberts exclusion from Gaza and asked Israel to change their decision. The humanitarian situation is still difficult and there is a need for all health workers.
Norwegian authorities confirmed Gilbert had been banned indefinitely by Israel.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/15/mads-gilbert-surgeon-gaza-israel
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)JERUSALEM (AFP) -- Israel has blocked Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert from entering the country and thereby accessing the Gaza Strip, but denied Monday it had imposed a lifelong ban on the outspoken medic.
"He has been banned from entering Israel," foreign ministry spokesman Paul Hirschson told AFP, categorically denying reports Gilbert had been blocked from entering Gaza.
Access to the Gaza Strip, which has been under an Israeli blockade since 2006, is possible only through the Erez crossing from Israel, or the Rafah terminal on the Egyptian border.
But Rafah has been blocked by Cairo since a deadly suicide bombing in the northern Sinai on October 24, leaving Erez as the only point of entry to the Palestinian territory.
News of the ban was first reported last week by Norwegian media which said Israel had barred Gilbert from Gaza for life.
The trauma specialist -- who has worked in the Palestinian territories for three decades -- accused Israeli authorities of backtracking Monday, following calls from Norway to reconsider the ban.
'Don't kill the messenger'
"They have a little trouble explaining if I'm banned from Gaza or Israel," he told AFP, adding that he was allowed into Israel in October but denied entry to Gaza by Israeli soldiers and later informed that the ban was "infinite".
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=740573