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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:24 PM Nov 2014

Israeli occupation stoking ‘holy war’ in Jerusalem

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/11/israeli-occupation-jerusalem

Relations between Israelis and Palestinians have descended into a dangerous melee of tit-for-tat attacks and killings, with the violence of the past few weeks centred on Jerusalem. The city, claimed by Israel as its “undivided capital”, has been torn apart by clashes between Israeli police and Palestinian residents since the summer, when 16-year-old Mohammed Abu Khdeir was burnt alive by Jewish extremists.

Subsequent attacks by Palestinians culminated last week in a shooting and stabbing spree by two cousins at a synagogue that killed four Jews and an Israeli policeman. In this atmosphere, both sides have warned that the political conflict is mutating into a religious one.

Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, cautioned that Israel’s intensified efforts to extend its control over the Al Aqsa mosque compound in Jerusalem’s Old City, including by imposing severe restrictions on Muslim worship, risked plunging the region into “a detrimental religious war”.

Yoram Cohen, the head of Israel’s Shin Bet intelligence service, concurred. He warned last week that Israel was stoking religious discord by encouraging Jews to pray at the site over rabbinical objections.
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Israeli occupation stoking ‘holy war’ in Jerusalem (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2014 OP
Jonathan Cook is on the case! oberliner Nov 2014 #1
Keep on laughing, ober. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2014 #2
"The World is Growing tired" King_David Nov 2014 #10
The world (see UN) wasn't tired of it when it created Israel. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2014 #12
The world has been tired of the Jewish State King_David Nov 2014 #13
Okay, whatever you say. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2014 #15
The World was tired of the Jewish State way before it was a Democracy King_David Nov 2014 #16
Your point is what, exactly? n/t Scootaloo Nov 2014 #4
Same Jonathan Cook who's a big fan of Gilad Atzmon. shira Nov 2014 #7
It's not a question of "mutating" or not "mutating." Igel Nov 2014 #3
that very last clause is actually important: the state is mobilizing religious affairs MisterP Nov 2014 #5
There has been no seizing of any mosque oberliner Nov 2014 #6
Did they give the mosque back after they seized it ? King_David Nov 2014 #8
"Holy War" is everywhere in the world with or without the occupation. King_David Nov 2014 #9
I guess they have something in common with the Israeli leadership then... R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2014 #11
ISIS and Hamas King_David Nov 2014 #14
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
2. Keep on laughing, ober.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:39 PM
Nov 2014

Soon you will be the only one.

The world is growing tired of Israeli belligerence and apartheid.

BDS.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
10. "The World is Growing tired"
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:40 AM
Nov 2014

That's funny LOL

When ever has the world ever not been "tired of" the Jewish State?

EVER ?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
12. The world (see UN) wasn't tired of it when it created Israel.
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:50 AM
Nov 2014

It's just gotten tired of it shit stirring and shenanigans.


So no, it's actually not funny.


End Israeli apartheid.

BDS

King_David

(14,851 posts)
16. The World was tired of the Jewish State way before it was a Democracy
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:45 AM
Nov 2014

Way befor independence , way before Herzl, way before the inquisition.

So I do not think that would make a difference.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
7. Same Jonathan Cook who's a big fan of Gilad Atzmon.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:56 PM
Nov 2014

Nice.

Well it's Mondoweiss, where all Jews worldwide are responsible for the deaths of Palestinians.
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/proposal-action-kippur

Igel

(35,350 posts)
3. It's not a question of "mutating" or not "mutating."
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:20 PM
Nov 2014

For many of the actors involved, it's been a religious conflict for decades, if not a century. It's just that those who are secular have had to overlook this to make the entire conflict fit their narrative (handling a variety of narratives is tricky).

I lack a word for the "religionization" of society (and, yes, I reject that one). I guess I'll go with the specific "Islamicization", since it's not so much a new Israeli phenomenon as an increasing Palestinian one.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
5. that very last clause is actually important: the state is mobilizing religious affairs
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:53 PM
Nov 2014

(seizing the Mosque) over the objections of even the same religion's interpreters and transmitters; so in this process you have the state acting outright blasphemously, the state making itself the supreme theologist, *and* the state turning religion into a marker of identity (on its own terms)

King_David

(14,851 posts)
8. Did they give the mosque back after they seized it ?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 11:08 PM
Nov 2014

Which mosque was that?

You seem very well informed on events in the city of gold.

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