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I'm on Facebook, looking at a picture of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews attending the funeral of police officer Zidan Saif, and the photo caption reads: "Look: Religious Jews mourning a Druze officer. Is this what you call an apartheid state?"
And that's when I realize that we have a problem. Not a problem with Arabs, with anti-Semites or with an unforgiving world, but with ourselves.
On Nov. 18, four people were murdered in cold blood while they were praying, and another died trying to save them. The very next day, we went on the defensive. As we always have, as we always do, even in the midst of tragedy. The seven-day mourning period has barely started and we are already explaining why we have the audacity to want to survive.
Since the morning after these heinous murders, I have read so many posts addressing the outside world, saying that now that we have bled so publicly, you must see, right? Now that our enemies have moved from rockets to hatchets, you must understand that we deserve to be here, right? That we are not to blame for them seeking our death and destruction?
Well, shame on us.
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http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_opinion.php?id=10799
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)She says, from her apartment in Stockholm.
Also, her twitter account is great fun. Sweden is a "Banana Republic." her blogged was hacked by "Nigerian revenge-criminals." The obama administration is a gang that "jumped out" Chuck Hagel. This "gang" also caves to iran regularly, apparently. Diaspora jews owe their skin to israel. Big supporter of Yehuda Glick. And back in Sweden, apparently she feels Josef Goebbels quotes are a great way to usher in the new government there. She opposes California's new law requiring unambiguous consent before sex on college campuses. Some of your basic right-wing anti-socialist bullshit... Oh, and she applied for Asylum in sweden... from Sweden. Oh, and this...
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Cheney is amazing. 9/11 and the future of US foreign policy: A speech by Vice President Richard B. Cheney http://www.aei.org/events/2014/09/10/911-and-the-future-of-us-foreign-policy-a-speech-by-vice-president-richard-b-cheney/#.VBCBgyOLIt4.twitter via @AEI
9:52 AM - 10 Sep 2014
And... laughing so hard...
Annika H Rothstein @truthandfiction · Aug 28
Got a pre-tty cool gift today:My very own talking Ronald Reagan action figure. Woot Woot!
Shira, if you keep finding nuts like this, I'm going to have to start imagining that you're a squirrel.
shira
(30,109 posts)Sometimes people with different views put good arguments together.
This article had nothing to do with her rightwing politics.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)you thought the Prawer Plan was pretty good. I'm yet to encounter a Kahanist nutcase that you didnt think was "pretty good".
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)She's not actually making an argument. I've read the "article" five times, and I have yet to find any central thesis. Some cohesive point that the article is coalescing around. and there's not one.
So, if this isn't an argument... what is it?
It's textbook demagoguery. It's meant to inflame your passions without actually engaging your mind. Pump you up, but not give you any useful direction. Get you angry, but not about anything or anyone in particular. so you sit there, stewing and unfocused, until some handy voice tells you who to be angry at, what to lash out against.
Rush Limbaugh does the same thing. he spins this long yarn of general "outrages" to get his audience worked up. Nothing too specific, just a bunch of "and can you believe this?!" type stuff. he gets the audience worked up, angry, high on that little festering bit of rage... and then he tells them who to be angry a. Maybe today it's Obama. or it might be Sandra Fluke. Perhaps its France. Could be liberals in general. maybe it'll be insufficiently conservative conservatives. The target of the daily hate changes, to keep things "fresh" but the process of working the audience into that lather? It's regular and often has pretty much nothing to do with the "target' of the day.
A lot of the sources you cite work this way. Like that Alan Johnson op-ed you've been thumping around of late. it's high on "Look at this! and this! and this!," jumping from one outrageous outrage you need to be outraged about to the next, in one sentence or less, but very low on actual information. There's no time to actually think about something, because as soon as you see it you're being dragged to the next thing you need to be pissed off about... and then he tells you who to be pissed at! In that particular article, the demagogue wants you to be incensed at "the Left' which is always a good, general, all-around catch-all thing to be pissed at no matter where the demagogue starts you off at.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)And that Carlos Rodriguez guy. He hasn't been trotted out in a while. I'm sure there were a couple of others.
Best to rotate them around, I think.