and those types of attack as their only real successful method of fighting that popular war.

Why do you think the Palestinian war with Israel is so popular?

JMHO.

rather than leave them to suffer under occupation.

This is not just about anti-Semitism.

Anti-Semitism is used by those with power in the Palestinian community to manipulate their people.
Pull the rug from under them and set up a Palestinian state within recognizable borders.

Anti-Semitism is not going away anymore than other forms of racial prejudice.

It is not the only issue here.

They turned down an offer for a state in 1947 and instead launched a war of genocide against the Zionists and indigenous Jews.

After the second Arab attempt to kill all the Jews failed the UN Security Council passed UN resolution 242 which spells out what needs to happen to resolve the conflict, namely that both sides sit down and work out borders, security arrangements, refugees etc.

The Palestinians are unwilling or unable to do that so they have turned to telling lies to make their case to the media and public.

Neither side gives a damn about negotiating, certainly not since the 90's, from what I have seen.

...even more was offered. These offers would have given the Palestinians pretty much everything they were asking for.

They turned both down w/o a counter-offer.

Israel withdrew from Gaza and immediately received rockets. Everyone on the Left was saying that if only Israel showed it was serious about peace then the Palestinians would meet them halfway.

Didn't happen.

There are no partners to negotiations because neither side wishes to negotiate. Israel continues its Pastrami sandwich policy because their government does not intend to negotiate. They don't want the Gaza strip, but turning it over to the fanatics who live there would lead directly to a massive and devastating war.

The Palestinians deserve a country so they can screw it up just like everyone else. They are not going to get one because neither Israel no the Palestinians have any desire to negotiate.

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....the Palestinians would agree to it? It gives them practically everything they're asking for.

Why haven't the Palestinians made any good counter-proposals to those 2 offers?

Lastly, if China and Turkey were to make similar offers to the Tibetans and Kurds, do you really believe the Tibetans and Kurds would both walk away w/o making a counter-proposal?

That would be nuts, wouldn't it?

murdering Israeli's has gotten them.

Dumb question actually.

is that what you are saying?

First, there is the general brutality of Palestinian Arab society. Violence by relatives against women suspected of immorality, violence by Muslim extremists against Christian Arabs, violence by the Palestinian Authority regime against dissidents—it’s all commonplace in the territories. That makes it easier for the average citizen to see violence as acceptable.

Second, there is a sense that violence works. Kidnapping Israelis led to the release of thousands of Palestinian terrorists from prison. Decades of bombings and hijackings led to widespread international support for Palestinian statehood. The recent attacks in Jerusalem have led to calls to redivide the city (including, most recently, by U.S. Mideast envoy Martin Indyk).

Third, and perhaps most important, is the influence of anti-Israel and anti-Jewish incitement by the Palestinian leadership. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry correctly pointed out that the Jerusalem synagogue slaughter was “a pure result of incitement.” The constant incitement by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and other Palestinian leaders, including declarations praising terrorists as heroes and accusing Israel of desecrating Muslim religious sites, have created an atmosphere in which support for murdering Jews has become the norm.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/12/15/why-do-80-of-palestinians-support-murder/

the denial of that oppression killings detentions land 'acquisition' ect has nothing to do with it is a hallmark of the Pro- Israel propaganda/cause

we'll be seeing myriad articles such as these as the Palestinian statehood bid at the UN approaches

In just the last few months the IDF mass murdered over 400 innocent Palestinian children with the full support of of the Israeli government and most of its citizens.

innocent people die.

If Hamas did not shoot rockets at Israeli civilians every single one of those kids would be alive.

They died because Hamas and it's supporters place the destruction of Israel over the lives of it's citizens.

It's really sick to say the least.

...to protect and defend them from rocket attacks, terror tunnels, etc., like every other citizen of any other country around the globe.

Did you know that in week 2 the Egyptian government proposed a cease fire to the Gaza war and Israel accepted and Hamas, with the cheering of white western wannabe palestinian "leaders" ( such as Alex Kane), REJECTED the cease fire. And what did they gain ?

Hamas is 100% responsible for those senseless deaths of those poor children.