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King_David

(14,851 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:27 PM Jan 2015

BDS Leaders Promote Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory Linking Mossad to Charlie Hebdo Atrocity

The anti-Semitism at the heart of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement targeting Israel was again laid bare yesterday, as prominent activists from the campaign took to social media to advance the conspiracy theory that yesterday’s terrorist attack against French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo was carried out by the Mossad.



Leading the charge was Greta Berlin, a spokesperson for the Free Gaza movement, an organization that has been closely involved with attempts to break Israel’s blockade against the Hamas regime in Gaza. In a Facebook posting, Berlin declared, “MOSSAD just hit the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo in a clumsy false flag designed to damage the accord between Palestine and France…Here’s hoping the French police will be able to tell a well executed hit by a well trained Israeli intelligence service and not assume the Muslims would be likely to attack France when France is their freind (sic.) Israel did tell France there would be grave consequences if they voted with Palestine. A four year old could see who is responsible for this terrible attack.”

Berlin’s colleague, Free Gaza co-founder Mary-Hughes Thompson, echoed those same views in a posting on Twitter. “#Hebdo killings indefensible. Can’t help thinking #JSIL Mossad false flag though. Killers spoke with perfect French accents. Time will tell,” she wrote. Even the International Business Times, a more mainstream publication, explicitly asked, “Charlie Hebdo Attack and Mossad Link: Is Israel Venting Its Fury for France’s Recognition of a Palestinian State?” although the offending item was quickly removed by an editor at the publication.

The term “JSIL,” which stands for “Jewish State in the Levant,” is a derogatory term for the State of Israel coined by the American anti-Semitic propagandist Max Blumenthal, which seeks to compare the Jewish state with the Islamic State terrorist organization. A number of individuals who objected to Thompson’s use of the term, as well as her endorsement of the Charlie Hebdo conspiracy theory, received a volley of abuse from her in response, including such choice phrases as “Zionist trash.”


http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/01/08/bds-leaders-promote-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theory-linking-mossad-to-charlie-hebdo-atrocity/

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BDS Leaders Promote Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory Linking Mossad to Charlie Hebdo Atrocity (Original Post) King_David Jan 2015 OP
Larry Derfner King_David Jan 2015 #1
BDS King_David Jan 2015 #2
it is entirely believable that Israel would do something like this nt msongs Jan 2015 #3
LOL King_David Jan 2015 #4
Are you kidding? shenmue Jan 2015 #13
Idiotic headline. Trillo Jan 2015 #5
LOL King_David Jan 2015 #6
Your headlines are like a broken record. Trillo Jan 2015 #7
Thank you for that King_David Jan 2015 #8
BTW you and msongs have identical styles of writing. King_David Jan 2015 #9
oh come on sabbat hunter Jan 2015 #12
Anti-Semitic means hostility or prejudice towards Jewish people oberliner Jan 2015 #15
Yes. The misnomer is why it's idiotic. Trillo Jan 2015 #17
Understood oberliner Jan 2015 #19
Lol thought police is it now? and Leaders of BDS? azurnoir Jan 2015 #10
Greta Berlin is a prominent BDS leader, King_David Jan 2015 #11
Lol still only free Gaza as I said the desperation to somehow someway still no verifible link either azurnoir Jan 2015 #14
So you think her quote was just fabricated? oberliner Jan 2015 #16
Link us to her Facebook page then show us the post azurnoir Jan 2015 #18
Here's a screenshot from Facebook... shira Jan 2015 #20
Link please and just where did u produce this from? ETA oh wait azurnoir Jan 2015 #21
Go to the Facebook page of the guy from the screenshot.... shira Jan 2015 #23
I did and found nothing the sort but if you LINK us to it azurnoir Jan 2015 #24
I went to that guy's Facebook page....you can do it too shira Jan 2015 #27
Not less reliable as Mondoweiss I guess King_David Jan 2015 #36
Oberliner, one of the likes in that screenshot above is from Greta Berlin.... shira Jan 2015 #22
here's what I got from your first link azurnoir Jan 2015 #25
So your thinking is that Greta Berlin never made those posts on Facebook King_David Jan 2015 #26
so you finally admit it your admission has been my point no one save the ProIsrael set azurnoir Jan 2015 #31
Not quite sure what that all means King_David Jan 2015 #34
You don't understand your own words when they are fed back to you? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #37
Ah that's what that was? King_David Jan 2015 #38
Another interesting OP here: King_David Jan 2015 #35
You have to sign in to Facebook to see that link. shira Jan 2015 #28
except I never denied as you of course claim I questioned and got exactly what I wanted azurnoir Jan 2015 #32
Do you have a Facebook account? oberliner Jan 2015 #29
yes I do and I figured that out when I tried to link to Mike Odetalla's page myself azurnoir Jan 2015 #33
Yeah, I saw that oberliner Jan 2015 #30

King_David

(14,851 posts)
1. Larry Derfner
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:29 PM
Jan 2015
Among Berlin’s defenders on that occasion was Larry Derfner, a former Jerusalem Post columnist who now writes for an anti-Zionist publication based in Israel named +972. Derfner took exception to Berlin being labeled as a “crazed Jew-hater” and attempted to portray her as a responsible, mainstream voice.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
6. LOL
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:45 AM
Jan 2015

And so ?

What that got to do with anything in the OP?

That is like saying ' Idiotic headline , most Canadians are North American'

So What ?

I met a Canadian who was anti-American though even though Canadians are North Americans.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
7. Your headlines are like a broken record.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 01:15 AM
Jan 2015

If the headline is moronic, there's no need to read further.

Nor is there any need to read anymore of your worthless posts. Ignore.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
8. Thank you for that
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 01:46 AM
Jan 2015

All of that , the content free post , the now needless reason and futile effort to go into definining "AntiSemitism " for you and an extra thank you for the ignore.



sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
12. oh come on
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 10:34 AM
Jan 2015

you know that the term anti-Semitic means anti-jewish. Look in any dictionary if you really don't know.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. Anti-Semitic means hostility or prejudice towards Jewish people
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 11:33 AM
Jan 2015

Despite the use of the prefix anti-, the term "anti-Semitic" is not a direct opposite of "Semitic" which linguistically makes the term a misnomer.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
17. Yes. The misnomer is why it's idiotic.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jan 2015

Perhaps the term Newspeak is better for Orwell fans, and for others, "control the language, control the debate." Anyway, I still don't see a reason to read the article, it's clearly biased. When the bias so clearly hits the headline, why waste the time.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Understood
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

You don't need to read the article. There are, though, some folks who are blaming Israel/Mossad for this attack.

Here is something from Mother Jones on that topic:

Meet the Charlie Hebdo Truthers. Here Are Their Bizarre Conspiracy Theories.

The likelihood that an Islamic terror group is responsible hasn't stopped some people from suggesting that Israel is somehow responsible. The International Business Times India published this piece blaming the Israeli spy agency Mossad

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/charlie-hebdo-conspiracy-theories

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. Lol thought police is it now? and Leaders of BDS?
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 03:21 AM
Jan 2015

I've never seen either Berlin or Hughes Thompson called that before both are founders of free Gaza

And Berlin where is there a link to where ever she supposedly said this the link in the article goes to StandwithUS's FaceBook page not defending Berlin (the usual accusation for asking a question) but there seems no other documentation than the word of StandwithUS, Hughes-Thompson did mention it a passing thought on her twitter account though, she should have known better as these are indeed desperate times and anything will be seized on and exploited to the max and well I for one was waiting for someone to link the tragedy in France to Palestinian , no matter how tenuous the link

King_David

(14,851 posts)
11. Greta Berlin is a prominent BDS leader,
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jan 2015

She is a perfect example of a White Western activist who is not Palestinian and not Muslim but fancies herself as a leader for the Palestinian cause.

This is a common phenomenon for such Western activists in that they are not so much drawn to the "cause " because of the injustices of the occupation ,as they are to their feelings about Jews.


You can read more about it here in Electronic Intifada ( of all places)

A final word on Greta Berlin and the Free Gaza controversy

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/final-word-greta-berlin-and-free-gaza-controversy

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. Lol still only free Gaza as I said the desperation to somehow someway still no verifible link either
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 11:29 AM
Jan 2015

make political hay for the so called ProIsrael set out of the horrendous killings in France by linking them to Palestinians or at least he so called Palestinian cause is fairly reeking here IMO

Greta Berlin is one person not a leader of BDS and is never mentioned except by the again so called ProIsrael set she seems oh so very important to some here, but not to those who would see Palestinian self determination

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. So you think her quote was just fabricated?
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jan 2015

This is the quote I mean:

:large

You think that is just made up and was/is not on her FB page?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. Link us to her Facebook page then show us the post
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jan 2015

frankly I don't know, the algeminer can only link to StandwithUs's claim, at this point almost anything could be said about Berlin and the believers will indeed believe

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. Link please and just where did u produce this from? ETA oh wait
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:39 PM
Jan 2015

yet another intrepid collage blogger for ToI Seth Greenwald they've proven themselves oh so reliable thus far

and even he can not provide a link to the page just a claim and what we're told is a screen shot who knows could be but then again who cares oh wait those desperate for a smear

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/greta-berlin-and-her-followers-are-at-it-again/

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
23. Go to the Facebook page of the guy from the screenshot....
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jan 2015

...and you'll find one of the Likes is from Greta Berlin.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
24. I did and found nothing the sort but if you LINK us to it
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jan 2015

and what exactly was it she liked, supposedly she wrote wrote it

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
27. I went to that guy's Facebook page....you can do it too
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jan 2015

I found his post that you believe Berlin ALLEGEDLY responded to. It's a direct match with the screenshot above from the ToI.

She scrubbed her comment, but her LIKE remains for his post if you click the link looking to see who actually liked that post.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
22. Oberliner, one of the likes in that screenshot above is from Greta Berlin....
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jan 2015

Looks like she deleted the comment since.

What's interesting is that on her Facebook page, Paul Eisen is trolling her latest posts with comments of his own. Eisen is one helluva big piece of garbage as he's close with both David Duke and Gilad Atzmon.

Speaking of Atzmon, one of his Facebook friends is none other than Greta Berlin.

And of course within that same circle of Facebook friends is Mary Hughes Thompson (FreeGaza) who echoed Berlin's remarks on her twitter account. Hughes-Thompson and Berlin are BFF besides being cheerleaders for Atzmon.

Mary Hughes-Thompson ?@Mariapalestina Jan 7
#Hebdo killings indefensible. Can't help thinking #JSIL Mossad false flag though. Killers spoke with perfect French accents. Time will tell.


Blaming the Zionists, just like Berlin.

And the kicker....this racist garbage is looking for the Paris terrorists to have their own accent despite the fact they were born and raised in France.



azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
25. here's what I got from your first link
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jan 2015
This content is currently unavailable
The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page.

Sign Up for Facebook


and now Gilad Atzmon too why is it that only the so called ProIsrael folks keep bringing these folks up, why even our avowed supporters of BDS here on DU never mention or seem very concerned about them-curious isn't it

but still and none the less nothing about who his friends are

King_David

(14,851 posts)
26. So your thinking is that Greta Berlin never made those posts on Facebook
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jan 2015

And that this is all an elaborate plan to discredit this POS known antisemite that even major Palestinian activists have distanced themselves from . ( because she's a pos antisemite)

Interesting..

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
31. so you finally admit it your admission has been my point no one save the ProIsrael set
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jan 2015

mentions Greta Berlin and with this thread you've given us a stunning example of not only that but the desperation to somehow wring political points from the horrendous murders in France by associating it somehow to what you claim is a leader of BDS

thank you took long enough

King_David
26. So your thinking is that Greta Berlin never made those posts on Facebook

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And that this is all an elaborate plan to discredit this POS known antisemite that even major Palestinian activists have distanced themselves from . ( because she's a pos antisemite)
Interesting..


http://www.democraticunderground.com/113492003#post26

King_David

(14,851 posts)
38. Ah that's what that was?
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:47 PM
Jan 2015

Keep kicking this thread up... It needs to be seen.

BDS leadership and what motivates them.

Hint : it's not the injustice of the occupation.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
35. Another interesting OP here:
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 02:10 AM
Jan 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113492144


BDS movement in the west is not fueled by the injustices of the occupation. There's good old fashioned reasons for these fringe western activists involvement.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
28. You have to sign in to Facebook to see that link.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jan 2015

And it's kinda important that the person running the Twitter account @FreeGazaOrg (Greta Berlin) is a big cheerleader for Atzmon.

As I recall, all the anti-Zio BDS'ers here at DU fully supported the flotillas - including yourself.

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Side Note:

I'm not surprised you're denying the existence of Berlin's post. You've denied a HELLUVA lot of stuff here that you don't like. Why does Berlin mean so much to you?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
33. yes I do and I figured that out when I tried to link to Mike Odetalla's page myself
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jan 2015

Last edited Fri Jan 9, 2015, 08:58 PM - Edit history (1)

but thanks all the same

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