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Related: About this forumBDS Leaders Promote Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory Linking Mossad to Charlie Hebdo Atrocity
The anti-Semitism at the heart of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement targeting Israel was again laid bare yesterday, as prominent activists from the campaign took to social media to advance the conspiracy theory that yesterdays terrorist attack against French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo was carried out by the Mossad.
Leading the charge was Greta Berlin, a spokesperson for the Free Gaza movement, an organization that has been closely involved with attempts to break Israels blockade against the Hamas regime in Gaza. In a Facebook posting, Berlin declared, MOSSAD just hit the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo in a clumsy false flag designed to damage the accord between Palestine and France
Heres hoping the French police will be able to tell a well executed hit by a well trained Israeli intelligence service and not assume the Muslims would be likely to attack France when France is their freind (sic.) Israel did tell France there would be grave consequences if they voted with Palestine. A four year old could see who is responsible for this terrible attack.
Berlins colleague, Free Gaza co-founder Mary-Hughes Thompson, echoed those same views in a posting on Twitter. #Hebdo killings indefensible. Cant help thinking #JSIL Mossad false flag though. Killers spoke with perfect French accents. Time will tell, she wrote. Even the International Business Times, a more mainstream publication, explicitly asked, Charlie Hebdo Attack and Mossad Link: Is Israel Venting Its Fury for Frances Recognition of a Palestinian State? although the offending item was quickly removed by an editor at the publication.
The term JSIL, which stands for Jewish State in the Levant, is a derogatory term for the State of Israel coined by the American anti-Semitic propagandist Max Blumenthal, which seeks to compare the Jewish state with the Islamic State terrorist organization. A number of individuals who objected to Thompsons use of the term, as well as her endorsement of the Charlie Hebdo conspiracy theory, received a volley of abuse from her in response, including such choice phrases as Zionist trash.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/01/08/bds-leaders-promote-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theory-linking-mossad-to-charlie-hebdo-atrocity/
King_David
(14,851 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)msongs
(67,420 posts)Oh please tell us more.
We really value your opinion here in IP.
Please elaborate.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Ridiculous.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)Palestinians are semitic.
And so ?
What that got to do with anything in the OP?
That is like saying ' Idiotic headline , most Canadians are North American'
So What ?
I met a Canadian who was anti-American though even though Canadians are North Americans.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)If the headline is moronic, there's no need to read further.
Nor is there any need to read anymore of your worthless posts. Ignore.
King_David
(14,851 posts)All of that , the content free post , the now needless reason and futile effort to go into definining "AntiSemitism " for you and an extra thank you for the ignore.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Just Saying.
sabbat hunter
(6,829 posts)you know that the term anti-Semitic means anti-jewish. Look in any dictionary if you really don't know.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Despite the use of the prefix anti-, the term "anti-Semitic" is not a direct opposite of "Semitic" which linguistically makes the term a misnomer.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)Perhaps the term Newspeak is better for Orwell fans, and for others, "control the language, control the debate." Anyway, I still don't see a reason to read the article, it's clearly biased. When the bias so clearly hits the headline, why waste the time.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)You don't need to read the article. There are, though, some folks who are blaming Israel/Mossad for this attack.
Here is something from Mother Jones on that topic:
Meet the Charlie Hebdo Truthers. Here Are Their Bizarre Conspiracy Theories.
The likelihood that an Islamic terror group is responsible hasn't stopped some people from suggesting that Israel is somehow responsible. The International Business Times India published this piece blaming the Israeli spy agency Mossad
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/charlie-hebdo-conspiracy-theories
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I've never seen either Berlin or Hughes Thompson called that before both are founders of free Gaza
And Berlin where is there a link to where ever she supposedly said this the link in the article goes to StandwithUS's FaceBook page not defending Berlin (the usual accusation for asking a question) but there seems no other documentation than the word of StandwithUS, Hughes-Thompson did mention it a passing thought on her twitter account though, she should have known better as these are indeed desperate times and anything will be seized on and exploited to the max and well I for one was waiting for someone to link the tragedy in France to Palestinian , no matter how tenuous the link
King_David
(14,851 posts)She is a perfect example of a White Western activist who is not Palestinian and not Muslim but fancies herself as a leader for the Palestinian cause.
This is a common phenomenon for such Western activists in that they are not so much drawn to the "cause " because of the injustices of the occupation ,as they are to their feelings about Jews.
You can read more about it here in Electronic Intifada ( of all places)
A final word on Greta Berlin and the Free Gaza controversy
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/final-word-greta-berlin-and-free-gaza-controversy
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)make political hay for the so called ProIsrael set out of the horrendous killings in France by linking them to Palestinians or at least he so called Palestinian cause is fairly reeking here IMO
Greta Berlin is one person not a leader of BDS and is never mentioned except by the again so called ProIsrael set she seems oh so very important to some here, but not to those who would see Palestinian self determination
oberliner
(58,724 posts)This is the quote I mean:
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You think that is just made up and was/is not on her FB page?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)frankly I don't know, the algeminer can only link to StandwithUs's claim, at this point almost anything could be said about Berlin and the believers will indeed believe
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)yet another intrepid collage blogger for ToI Seth Greenwald they've proven themselves oh so reliable thus far
and even he can not provide a link to the page just a claim and what we're told is a screen shot who knows could be but then again who cares oh wait those desperate for a smear
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/greta-berlin-and-her-followers-are-at-it-again/
shira
(30,109 posts)...and you'll find one of the Likes is from Greta Berlin.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and what exactly was it she liked, supposedly she wrote wrote it
shira
(30,109 posts)I found his post that you believe Berlin ALLEGEDLY responded to. It's a direct match with the screenshot above from the ToI.
She scrubbed her comment, but her LIKE remains for his post if you click the link looking to see who actually liked that post.
King_David
(14,851 posts)One needs be weary of all blogs.
shira
(30,109 posts)Looks like she deleted the comment since.
What's interesting is that on her Facebook page, Paul Eisen is trolling her latest posts with comments of his own. Eisen is one helluva big piece of garbage as he's close with both David Duke and Gilad Atzmon.
Speaking of Atzmon, one of his Facebook friends is none other than Greta Berlin.
And of course within that same circle of Facebook friends is Mary Hughes Thompson (FreeGaza) who echoed Berlin's remarks on her twitter account. Hughes-Thompson and Berlin are BFF besides being cheerleaders for Atzmon.
#Hebdo killings indefensible. Can't help thinking #JSIL Mossad false flag though. Killers spoke with perfect French accents. Time will tell.
Blaming the Zionists, just like Berlin.
And the kicker....this racist garbage is looking for the Paris terrorists to have their own accent despite the fact they were born and raised in France.
azurnoir
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and now Gilad Atzmon too why is it that only the so called ProIsrael folks keep bringing these folks up, why even our avowed supporters of BDS here on DU never mention or seem very concerned about them-curious isn't it
but still and none the less nothing about who his friends are
King_David
(14,851 posts)And that this is all an elaborate plan to discredit this POS known antisemite that even major Palestinian activists have distanced themselves from . ( because she's a pos antisemite)
Interesting..
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)mentions Greta Berlin and with this thread you've given us a stunning example of not only that but the desperation to somehow wring political points from the horrendous murders in France by associating it somehow to what you claim is a leader of BDS
thank you took long enough
26. So your thinking is that Greta Berlin never made those posts on Facebook
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And that this is all an elaborate plan to discredit this POS known antisemite that even major Palestinian activists have distanced themselves from . ( because she's a pos antisemite)
Interesting..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113492003#post26
King_David
(14,851 posts)Explain?
Or if anyone else understands please help us out here.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Keep kicking this thread up... It needs to be seen.
BDS leadership and what motivates them.
Hint : it's not the injustice of the occupation.
King_David
(14,851 posts)BDS movement in the west is not fueled by the injustices of the occupation. There's good old fashioned reasons for these fringe western activists involvement.
shira
(30,109 posts)And it's kinda important that the person running the Twitter account @FreeGazaOrg (Greta Berlin) is a big cheerleader for Atzmon.
As I recall, all the anti-Zio BDS'ers here at DU fully supported the flotillas - including yourself.
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Side Note:
I'm not surprised you're denying the existence of Berlin's post. You've denied a HELLUVA lot of stuff here that you don't like. Why does Berlin mean so much to you?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)If you don't, that might be the problem.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 9, 2015, 08:58 PM - Edit history (1)
but thanks all the same
oberliner
(58,724 posts)She is just awful.