to further beef up their military budget so they can terrorize and dispossess even more Palestinians?

when Israel lets them have access of course.

When they are not being bombed, strafed, having water and electricity cut off, hospitals destroyed, schools destroyed, white phosphorous used on them and other acts of kindness by the Israelis.

desalinate it?

Because we in California are warned that desalination of ocean water is far too expensive for our use.

Know any more about this or are you just joking?

We know that Israel controls water and electricity in the Occupied Territories. Gaza is basically an open air prison while the West Bank is increasingly fragmented by Israeli land theft.

Desalinization may be too expensive as a total solution, but can it fit, along with conservation measures, in a mix of solutions?

Well, heavens, they've been such grand allies of palestine before...!



Glad to see you still take joy in the occupation Mosby. When will you be joining in?

You just got back after a month for such.

Maybe you should reflect why that keeps happening to you?

And I also know it has nothing to do with the goings-on of I/P. Except that one time I got a hide for shitbagging a guy who was defending Hitler in here, but hey, that was worth it. Baffling, perhaps, but mostly worth it.

And nothing slanderous about it, Dave. if you celebrate what you see as "failures" of BDS, that places you in clear support of what BDS is intending to end; the occupation of Palestine.

Now, maybe if Mosby had left it at a feel-good story about cooperation between Israel and Jordan...? But no, can't go without that triumphant little fist-pump, "fuck yeah the Palestinians are still getting screwed! "

It clearly was an attack.

The BDS movement partake in the worst antisemitic Jew hatred bigotry that no one here should be defending.

BDS has nothing to do with the occupation.

You attacked some one personally as you usually do, your record is clear , your time outs proof and it seems it will not be too long before it happens again.

It's not only IP.

And if you celebrate "failures" of BDS, you are expressing your position as a supporter of the occupation. because BDS' goal is the end of that occupation through economic pressure.

Also, what now, you think support for the occupation is embarrassing? slanderous? Since when? Are you going to tell me that you and Mosby (for starters) are against the occupation? I'd be overjoyed if so! can you show me some examples?

When their leaders post nazi Jew hating stuff on Facebook or leave severed pigs heads in kosher supermarkets or call for expulsion of Jews from universities or target Jews in university dormitories it isn't about the occupation....

But that is, in fact, the goal of BDS. To end the occupation of Palestine through economic pressure on Israel through use of boycotts, sanctions, and divestment.

Which of course you know. That's why you bring it up with every bit of economic news from Israel that you find. You know, such as your favorite, that app that makes fun of Miley Cyrus' butt or whatever it was.

so, Dave. I didn't catch yoru answer about whether or not you support the occupation. remember that indifference does count as support.

UNSCR 242, 338 and 1515 are the LAW.

I love this. All of a sudden you and David are against the occupation and have decided UN resolutions matter. What next, will you forfeit future celebrations of "International Pancake Day"?

(by the way, you might not want to swing 242 around too hard, you're bound to hit yourself in the face with it.)

Someone who bizzarly thinks they speaks for Jewish people and that bizzarly thinks they know better than Jewish experts ,like the ADL or our very own Jewish group here on DU ,what is and what is not Antisemitism?

Lol ... Any insult or personal attack directed this way is worn as a badge of honor.

As for the DU Jewish group, one, the group bars I/P discussion. probably a wise decision. Two, I'm just not comfortable engaging in the group while Aegis is host, after some of the stuff I saw that person saying off-site.

And what insult? i'm trying to learn about your opposition to the occupation, Dave.

Your old can of worms is getting a bit empty.

Still no statement on your opposition to the occupation. Strange. I guess you must have forgotten where you put it.

I'm mildly surprised he had the gall to ask to become a host, after dedicating so much effort to portraying this site as a den of unreconstructed Nazis.

The people in charge here must have the patience of monks, or alternatively they just don't give a shit, which is understandable.

Or else I suggest retract your false , ridiculous , groundless allegations and delete this slanderous post about a long time decent member of DU.

its been memory-holed, so I can't link it for you.

I cast my eye over it a couple of times. I remember one pro-Palestinian poster here being described as jealous because "even jihadis don't want to pound her cavernous old vag" or some words to that effect.

.....at my age anymore shaayecanaan , but your above post did.

So I did a search on "prosemite undercover" .

Amazing what comes up , example :

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2008/09/27/paul-katz-and-the-pathology-of-jewish-extremism/

The unsubstantiated and disgusting innuendo in this thread against the host of the Gay and Jewish group, who is not even in this thread to defend himself and has been here longer than anyone else is truly sickening.

The participants in this should be ashamed of themselves.

http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/09/prosemiteundercover-internet-band-of.html

You can see a number of names of other participants there.

Sadly as has been noted, the site has gone under the water. It was a pretty vile little hole though, and my lack of forethought means i didn't grab any snapshots while I was poking my nose in there, so I'll refrain from putting specific words to specific posters.

Postings from 3 particular anti-Zionist pro Palestinian pro Hamas regulars on that site.

Real bigoted homophobic stuff.

2 of them had the same names as some nick names here in our group currently,but of course on the "wild west of Internet" it doesn't mean it was in fact those 2 but it could very well be.

If only I had screen captures...

There was nothing remotely pro-Palestinian at PSU.

There were a couple extremely homophobic pro Palestinian posters.

One always went on about how she was an anti Zionist and said there was no such thing as liberal Zionism and on and on and was

extremely bigoted against Gays.....

Some had same nick names as members of our group here in IP but of course that does not mean they were the same individuals....

This is the internet....

Must be thinking of somewhere else, Dave.

Pro Palestinian and anti Zionist/Jewish and anti Gay posters....perhaps another forum who knows .

if you find it, let me know. Ought to be interesting

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50. Here's something, Dave, from the guy who operated the site

http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/09/prosemiteundercover-internet-band-of.html

You can see a number of names of other participants there.

Sadly as has been noted, the site has gone under the water. It was a pretty vile little hole though, and my lack of forethought means i didn't grab any snapshots while I was poking my nose in there, so I'll refrain from putting specific words to specific posters.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96523

but something that I've seen somewhere before, it's a gif about Gay Jewish pride and a lovely one too, have you ever seen it?

And that GIF is dated, was needed at a time when Jewish Gays were not as widely accepted in the Jewish community in Israel and the Golah as they are today.

It was pretty much all like that.

And don't think you should be posting that drivel here on DU

Looks borderline bigoted , right wing , vanity tripe.

been banned, there was one previously banned DUer that seemed to have thing about me in particular his user name was Queer Justice claimed to be a Canadian who was something in the medical profession, perhaps a Doctor I'm not sure though

Or link to it instead of maligning a current upstanding DU member who is currently the host of the Jewish Group and the LGBT group and has been here longer than anyone else in this group and hasn't even posted in this thread or group for many months.

and generally speaking when someone abandons the company of people with extremist beliefs I don't think that you should keep dredging up that past and throwing it in their face. However I did challenge him on it once and he never responded (although you did):-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=25945

so I really don't know what you're going on about

Not exactly what I would call rapier like wit.

But then, how do you name-mock someone who willingly named themselves after this?

derpy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1853903

who was 'talking' and who I last ticked off

Maybe?

Was that the site a poster called ( if I recall correctly)
Azun-Noose was banned from for the worst kind of extreme Gay hating homophobia?

I can't say for sure , I can't find the site.

And I don't want to slander any fellow DU members.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96491

http://web.archive.org/web/20110607054950/http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewforum.php?f=16

http://web.archive.org/web/20110607054618/http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewforum.php?f=26



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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96479

I am not listed there.

There was a bigoted homophobic Gay hating poster on that site with a very similar name to yours , almost identical and nobody's making that link , so please explain wtf it has to do with me ?

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35. Can you link up or offer some proof of that?

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Or else I suggest retract your false , ridiculous , groundless allegations and delete this slanderous post about a long time decent member of DU.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96479
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Because that's what I was demanding and your link proved NOTHING so it's just slander.

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Your link proves nothing , in fact the slanderous accusations there about Aegeas are made worse by this attempt at posting some other website and trying to infer it's someone else.

As I said there was a vicious homophobic poster on a website with an identical name to yours but I will not slander your name like your attempting to do with another DU member as nothing can be verified.

It's shameful and your posts deserve to be hidden and reviewed .

I slandered no one as I named no one

The links you provided proved no such thing.

I'd say that's pretty slanderous provide proof or apologize

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44. I don't believe I ever saw that site

Maybe?

Was that the site a poster called ( if I recall correctly)
Azun-Noose was banned from for the worst kind of extreme Gay hating homophobia?

I can't say for sure , I can't find the site.

And I don't want to slander any fellow DU members.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96491


70. Yes I was demanding proof after Aegis good name was maligned

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Your link proves nothing , in fact the slanderous accusations there about Aegeas are made worse by this attempt at posting some other website and trying to infer it's someone else.

As I said there was a vicious homophobic poster on a website with an identical name to yours but I will not slander your name like your attempting to do with another DU member as nothing can be verified.

It's shameful and your posts deserve to be hidden and reviewed .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96759

Anyone can register on any website with any name they choose- there's no copyright across different sites and forums- and that's the whole point.

I never said its you , quite the opposite, why should I apologize for something I never did?

if they exonerate BtA then why so upset?

rather than the reverse, the Dead Sea is mentioned but why on Earth would Jordan want to even attempt to desalinate that when it has free access to the Red Seam where the salinity of the water is lower

I would guess it's to better facilitate water transport to Northern / Central Jordan?

if only there was a big freshwater lake somewhere in the region.

The Palestinians who have long complained about Israeli restrictions on constructing new water infrastructure and what they say is illegal pumping from their underground aquifers in the West Bank will also get water from the plant, Nasser said.

https://newsdaily.com/2015/02/jordan-israel-agree-900-million-red-sea-dead-sea-project/

I must wonder about that BDS comment

In addition to producing desalinated water it is part a a regional attempt to stop the Dead Sea from shrinking by pumping water into it.

Economics 101

The Palestinians who have long complained about Israeli restrictions on constructing new water infrastructure and what they say is illegal pumping from their underground aquifers in the West Bank will also get water from the plant, Nasser said.

https://newsdaily.com/2015/02/jordan-israel-agree-900-million-red-sea-dead-sea-project/

I was responding to your comment about why they were not getting the water from the Red sea to let you know they are and also why the Dead Sea was Iinvolved.

my initial impression was that Dead Sea water was being desalinated eta to add comment 8

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8. the desalination plant is in Jordan not Israel meaning it is Jordan who will be selling Israel water

rather than the reverse, the Dead Sea is mentioned but why on Earth would Jordan want to even attempt to desalinate that when it has free access to the Red Seam where the salinity of the water is lower

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113496315#post8

desalinated and also comment on why the Dead Sea was involved. There was nothing i said about who is paying who or who has access.
But your response inpost 16 was on payment and access which confused me.

and about that BDS thing as the Palestinians are indeed going to benefit BDS really doesn't apply here

Its shrinkage has accelerated over the years.
I have read it is due to the decline in the amount of water the Jordan river empties into the Dead Sea due to its diversion for consumption. Pumping the brine from the desalination plant into the Dead Sea gets rid of 2 problems. What to do with the waste and stopping the shrinkage.

There has been work on regional cooperation to develop a plan to reverse this shrinkage and on other water issues. Both Jordan and Israel realize its in both thier interests to cooperate to avert problems and potential disasters that will occur if nothing is done. They both realize it will take regional cooperation to solve such problems.

In fact it seems that the pumping idea was Jordan's in the first place and that they have been at it for quite some time:-

Jordan and Israel also have cooperative mineral mining operations going on as well.

Discussions on plans to halt the Dead Sea shrinkage have been going on for years. As Az said the World Bank as well as other NGO's have been involved too.