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Related: About this forumIsraeli soldiers set attack dogs on teen — ‘Bite him’ — and rightwing politician cheers
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/soldiers-rightwing-politicianLast night Israeli TV cut away from reporting on Netanyahus Washington fiasco to cover the leak of an outrageous video of Israeli soldiers inciting their trained elite dogs to attack and maul a captured Palestinian teen near an illegal West Bank settlement two months ago. The video appeared on the Facebook page of Michael Ben-Ari, a former member of Knesset of the Kahanist Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Strength) party. And it is big news in Israel.
The footage shows a terrified Hamza Abu Hashem, 16, screaming while being mauled by the dogs as two soldiers, reportedly dog handlers from the Oketz unit wearing helmet cameras, record the scene. According to Btselem, the video was presumably available to their commanders during the routine debriefing held after such operations.
A translation of the soldiers words by Mairav Zonszein at +972 include Whos the coward now? and Bite him.
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The Times of Israel reports that Ben-Ari praised the attack on his Facebook posting (now removed), describing Hashem as the little terrorist:
bravenak
(34,648 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)the link below gives information about your reference
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/8/ferguson-police-violenceisraeliandusmilitarizedpolicies.html
What happened in Ferguson echoes what happens in Gaza because the same terror tactics are used.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Same tactics because they got trained the same. Now, both nations can shoot unarmed teenagers. Yay!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)you write often about racism here.
Our social justice group recently showed the movie "Tulia Texas". We did this as part of an ongoing series of forums and movies on racism in America. We have been reading a lot and it is amazing, sad, stunning, to realize how every aspect of American life revolves around race. From policing, to prison, to economics, to housing, to schooling. Your Civil War never really ended.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I went through the 'it's not fair!",phase as a child. Now I can fight back. And you're right, we went from slave shacks to housing projects, from overseers to officers. America is like a huge plantation.
I noticed that Israel is just like us. Hell, they deport their blacks like we do to hispanics. It alwasys shocks me when somebody tells me race doesn't matter.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Today, the Israeli media published a short video of two soldiers from the IDF dog unit, filmed by another soldier after they had set dogs on a Palestinian boy. The footage was first posted on former MK Michael Ben Aris Facebook page, but has since been removed from there. The militarys official response read: Upon receipt of the footage, the Commander of the Airborne and Special Training Center ordered an immediate internal inquiry into the incident. Upon completion of this inquiry, conclusions will be drawn and the necessary steps will be taken to prevent such incidents from recurring.
BTselem documented and publicized this incident about two months ago. The IDFs official disapproval belies the fact that this arrest was part of an official IDF operation, presumably approved by the higher command. Based on BTselems experience, this footage is yet another example of the armys standard practice when dogs are used in arrest operations: a dog handler takes the dog off the leash, the dog chases a group of civilians, clamps its teeth onto a person who did not manage to escape, and holds on until the handler arrives. In some cases documented by BTselem, the dog refused to release the person and the dog handler had to use a taser to release his grip. Also, two dog handlers from the Oketz unit who took part in this incident had helmet cameras on, and the footage captured on them was presumably available to their commanders during the routine debriefing held after such operations.
Previous responses received from the MAG Corps, regarding complaints that BTselem filed in some ten other cases in which dogs were set on civilians, indicate that internal inquiry into such incidents focuses only on how the dogs were used, and not on whether they should have been used at all. The responses centered on professional mistakes made in some of the cases, according to the MAG Corps, and not on the policy of allowing dog attacks against unarmed civilians. BTselem wrote to the Military Advocate General demanding an end to dog attacks on Palestinian civilians. The only response, received more than 18 months ago, was that the letter was received and is under review. The army had stated in the past, after similarly shocking footage of a dog unleashed on a demonstrator was published, that it would stop using dogs to disperse demonstrations.
BTselem once again calls on the military to stop the horrifying use of dogs for arresting unarmed Palestinian civilians. Setting dogs on civilians is an appalling act, both unlawful and immoral.
Details of the incident:
At approximately 2:00 P.M. on Tuesday, 23 Dec. 2014, a confrontation developed between several dozen Palestinians and soldiers in the Special Security Area (SSA) surrounding the settlement of Carmei Tzur, south of Beit Umar in the West Bank. The area is the site of frequent confrontations between soldiers and Palestinian residents of Beit Umar, whose land was appropriated for the settlement and the SSA.
During the confrontation, Palestinians threw stones at soldiers, who responded with use of crowd control weapons. About an hour after the incident began, at around 3 P.M., two soldiers arrived in the area with two dogs, who were captured on video by BTselem volunteer Muhammad Awwad. In the video footage, soldiers and dogs are seen arriving on the scene. The assault itself was not captured, as the soldiers prevented BTselems volunteer from filming.
An eyewitness told BTselem that the soldiers unleashed the dogs on some youths and the one of the dogs caught and bit one of the boys who had confronted the soldiers, 16-year-old Hamzeh Abu Hashem. The soldiers then removed the dogs, handcuffed Abu Hashem, and took him to the settlement of Carmei Tzur. From there, he was taken by ambulance to an Israeli hospital. Abu Hashems family reported that he was arrested and taken from hospital to Ofer Prison. He was recently sentenced to a 6 month prison term. Two months earlier, on 20 Oct. 2014, BTselem documented a similar incident in which dogs were set on a young Palestinian man opposite the Carmei Tzur settlements SSA. The incident was not caught on video. The incident came after similar incidents in which dogs were used to attack Palestinian demonstrators or in arrests of Palestinian laborers who entered Israel to work without permits.
http://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20150302_dog_set_on_youth_as_part_of_official_policy
Solindsey
(115 posts)Are we suppose to be surprised anymore?
The headlines surrounding this Israeli Terrorist are shockingly... really grim. Shit like this is usually swept under the radar.
"Two months ago, BTselem documented a similar incident in which dogs were set on a young Palestinian man opposite the Carmei Tzur settlements SSA." - http://www.yorkshirestandard.co.uk/viral/leaked-footage-shows-israeli-soldiers-setting-dogs-on-palestinian-teen-10554/
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)to tell us it was a "false flag" or something.
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King_David
(14,851 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Kind of like the "Nazi comparisons " of Israelis , and very much against DU rules.
A new kind of low....
And you just came back from a DU timeout too....
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)David Duke is a racist, right wing hater who believes that blacks are subhumans.
The Israelis may treat Palestinians as subhumans but their official ideology/policy does not classify them as such.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)but it is always necessary to divide by creating a distinction between the worthy "us" and the unworthy "them" even if us and them are branches from the same tree.
Especially easy if the unworthy them (the Palestinians) owns land and resources that we (the Israelis) want for our own use.
King_David
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(25,699 posts)Kings don't pout. keep it up and you're going all the way down to viscount.
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