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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:47 PM Mar 2015

Israeli soldiers set attack dogs on teen — ‘Bite him’ — and rightwing politician cheers

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/soldiers-rightwing-politician

Last night Israeli TV cut away from reporting on Netanyahu’s Washington fiasco to cover the leak of an outrageous video of Israeli soldiers inciting their trained “elite” dogs to attack and maul a captured Palestinian teen near an illegal West Bank settlement two months ago. The video appeared on the Facebook page of Michael Ben-Ari, a former member of Knesset of the Kahanist Otzma Yehudit (“Jewish Strength”) party. And it is big news in Israel.

The footage shows a terrified Hamza Abu Hashem, 16, screaming while being mauled by the dogs as two soldiers, reportedly dog handlers from the Oketz unit wearing helmet cameras, record the scene. According to B’tselem, the video was “presumably available to their commanders during the routine debriefing held after such operations.”

A translation of the soldiers words by Mairav Zonszein at +972 include “Who’s the coward now?” and “Bite him.”
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The Times of Israel reports that Ben-Ari praised the attack on his Facebook posting (now removed), describing Hashem as “the little terrorist”:


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Israeli soldiers set attack dogs on teen — ‘Bite him’ — and rightwing politician cheers (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2015 OP
Sounds like the Ferguson PD. bravenak Mar 2015 #1
nice reference guillaumeb Mar 2015 #9
I think we train with Israel. Our police. bravenak Mar 2015 #11
and no worries about prosecution either. guillaumeb Mar 2015 #13
I am so glad you notice how much race affects people. bravenak Mar 2015 #15
Another nasty stunt. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #2
Incident in which soldiers set dogs on Palestinian youth was part of official policy Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #3
Scum Solindsey Mar 2015 #4
I'm sure our local Duke will be here shortly... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #5
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #6
The show continues with you two and because of the OTT nastiness I predict another time out pretty s King_David Mar 2015 #7
Calling Jewish and Gay DU Posters "Duke" ? King_David Mar 2015 #8
I agree with you guillaumeb Mar 2015 #10
and yet they de-legitimize them by calling them Arabs. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2015 #12
and they are all semitic peoples guillaumeb Mar 2015 #14
2 Juries on yours and Daneels disgusting posts: King_David Mar 2015 #16
Looks like you're mad i pulled your argument out from under you Scootaloo Mar 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Mar 2015 #18
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
11. I think we train with Israel. Our police.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:28 PM
Mar 2015

Same tactics because they got trained the same. Now, both nations can shoot unarmed teenagers. Yay!

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
13. and no worries about prosecution either.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015

you write often about racism here.

Our social justice group recently showed the movie "Tulia Texas". We did this as part of an ongoing series of forums and movies on racism in America. We have been reading a lot and it is amazing, sad, stunning, to realize how every aspect of American life revolves around race. From policing, to prison, to economics, to housing, to schooling. Your Civil War never really ended.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
15. I am so glad you notice how much race affects people.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:49 PM
Mar 2015

I went through the 'it's not fair!",phase as a child. Now I can fight back. And you're right, we went from slave shacks to housing projects, from overseers to officers. America is like a huge plantation.



I noticed that Israel is just like us. Hell, they deport their blacks like we do to hispanics. It alwasys shocks me when somebody tells me race doesn't matter.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. Incident in which soldiers set dogs on Palestinian youth was part of official policy
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:11 PM
Mar 2015

Today, the Israeli media published a short video of two soldiers from the IDF dog unit, filmed by another soldier after they had set dogs on a Palestinian boy. The footage was first posted on former MK Michael Ben Ari’s Facebook page, but has since been removed from there. The military’s official response read: “Upon receipt of the footage, the Commander of the Airborne and Special Training Center ordered an immediate internal inquiry into the incident. Upon completion of this inquiry, conclusions will be drawn and the necessary steps will be taken to prevent such incidents from recurring.”

B’Tselem documented and publicized this incident about two months ago. The IDF’s official disapproval belies the fact that this arrest was part of an official IDF operation, presumably approved by the higher command. Based on B’Tselem’s experience, this footage is yet another example of the army’s standard practice when dogs are used in arrest operations: a dog handler takes the dog off the leash, the dog chases a group of civilians, clamps its teeth onto a person who did not manage to escape, and holds on until the handler arrives. In some cases documented by B’Tselem, the dog refused to release the person and the dog handler had to use a taser to release his grip. Also, two dog handlers from the Oketz unit who took part in this incident had helmet cameras on, and the footage captured on them was presumably available to their commanders during the routine debriefing held after such operations.

Previous responses received from the MAG Corps, regarding complaints that B’Tselem filed in some ten other cases in which dogs were set on civilians, indicate that internal inquiry into such incidents focuses only on how the dogs were used, and not on whether they should have been used at all. The responses centered on professional mistakes made in some of the cases, according to the MAG Corps, and not on the policy of allowing dog attacks against unarmed civilians. B’Tselem wrote to the Military Advocate General demanding an end to dog attacks on Palestinian civilians. The only response, received more than 18 months ago, was that the letter was received and is under review. The army had stated in the past, after similarly shocking footage of a dog unleashed on a demonstrator was published, that it would stop using dogs to disperse demonstrations.


B’Tselem once again calls on the military to stop the horrifying use of dogs for arresting unarmed Palestinian civilians. Setting dogs on civilians is an appalling act, both unlawful and immoral.

Details of the incident:

At approximately 2:00 P.M. on Tuesday, 23 Dec. 2014, a confrontation developed between several dozen Palestinians and soldiers in the Special Security Area (SSA) surrounding the settlement of Carmei Tzur, south of Beit Umar in the West Bank. The area is the site of frequent confrontations between soldiers and Palestinian residents of Beit Umar, whose land was appropriated for the settlement and the SSA.

During the confrontation, Palestinians threw stones at soldiers, who responded with use of crowd control weapons. About an hour after the incident began, at around 3 P.M., two soldiers arrived in the area with two dogs, who were captured on video by B’Tselem volunteer Muhammad ‘Awwad. In the video footage, soldiers and dogs are seen arriving on the scene. The assault itself was not captured, as the soldiers prevented B’Tselem’s volunteer from filming.

An eyewitness told B’Tselem that the soldiers unleashed the dogs on some youths and the one of the dogs caught and bit one of the boys who had confronted the soldiers, 16-year-old Hamzeh Abu Hashem. The soldiers then removed the dogs, handcuffed Abu Hashem, and took him to the settlement of Carmei Tzur. From there, he was taken by ambulance to an Israeli hospital. Abu Hashem’s family reported that he was arrested and taken from hospital to Ofer Prison. He was recently sentenced to a 6 month prison term. Two months earlier, on 20 Oct. 2014, B’Tselem documented a similar incident in which dogs were set on a young Palestinian man opposite the Carmei Tzur settlement’s SSA. The incident was not caught on video. The incident came after similar incidents in which dogs were used to attack Palestinian demonstrators or in arrests of Palestinian laborers who entered Israel to work without permits.

http://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20150302_dog_set_on_youth_as_part_of_official_policy

 

Solindsey

(115 posts)
4. Scum
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:36 PM
Mar 2015

Are we suppose to be surprised anymore?

The headlines surrounding this Israeli Terrorist are shockingly... really grim. Shit like this is usually swept under the radar.

"Two months ago, B’Tselem documented a similar incident in which dogs were set on a young Palestinian man opposite the Carmei Tzur settlement’s SSA." - http://www.yorkshirestandard.co.uk/viral/leaked-footage-shows-israeli-soldiers-setting-dogs-on-palestinian-teen-10554/

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King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. The show continues with you two and because of the OTT nastiness I predict another time out pretty s
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:18 PM
Mar 2015

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King_David

(14,851 posts)
8. Calling Jewish and Gay DU Posters "Duke" ?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:21 PM
Mar 2015

Kind of like the "Nazi comparisons " of Israelis , and very much against DU rules.

A new kind of low....

And you just came back from a DU timeout too....



guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. I agree with you
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:06 PM
Mar 2015

David Duke is a racist, right wing hater who believes that blacks are subhumans.

The Israelis may treat Palestinians as subhumans but their official ideology/policy does not classify them as such.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
14. and they are all semitic peoples
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:46 PM
Mar 2015

but it is always necessary to divide by creating a distinction between the worthy "us" and the unworthy "them" even if us and them are branches from the same tree.

Especially easy if the unworthy them (the Palestinians) owns land and resources that we (the Israelis) want for our own use.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
16. 2 Juries on yours and Daneels disgusting posts:
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:16 PM
Mar 2015

1.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your alert
On Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:44 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

I'm sure our local Duke will be here shortly...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96658

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

It is pretty obvious to any regular of this group to whom that is directed.
To compare any fellow DUr to David Duke is outrageous, offensive and slanderous
( personal and character attack too)
But to aim that insult toward a Jewish and Gay poster ( Duke is a homophobic antisemitic hater) is beyond the pale.

JURY RESULTS

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AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your alert
On Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:59 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Our local David Duke?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=96670

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YOUR COMMENTS

It is pretty obvious to any regular of this group to whom that is directed.
To compare any fellow DUr to David Duke is outrageous, offensive and slanderous
( personal and character attack too)
But to aim that insult toward a Jewish and Gay poster ( Duke is a homophobic antisemitic hater) is beyond the pale.

JURY RESULTS

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Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I feel like i got dropped into the middle of an ongoing spitefest between these two but nevertheless, vote to hide.
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Explanation: I don't know anything about this group or what goes on. I suggest they just duke it out among themselves, so to speak.
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Thank you.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
17. Looks like you're mad i pulled your argument out from under you
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:52 PM
Mar 2015

Kings don't pout. keep it up and you're going all the way down to viscount.

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