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Related: About this forumWhite House will go after AIPAC next — Newsweek
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/after-aipac-newsweekAnother important report in Newsweek says that Netanyahu alienated a crucial constituency he needed to block an Iran deal: black Congresspeople. They disliked his upstaging of Obama, most of them boycotted his speech, and they saw his racebaiting on election day:
According to aides, the South Carolina Democrat [James Clyburn] bluntly told [Israeli legislator Yuli] Edelstein he regarded the prime minister’s upcoming speech as an “affront to America’s first black president.”…
But for black Democrats like Clyburn, it was Netanyahu’s coded election-day warning that Israel’s Arab citizens were headed to the polls “in droves” to vote him out of office that pushed them from anger to outrage. Netanyahu later apologized for his remark, but his contrition appeared to have no effect on Clyburn and company. “The Congressional Black Caucus is gone,” a Democratic congressional aide told Newsweek, referring to its support for Israel under Netanyahu.
As negotiators from the U.S., Iran and five major powers close in on a framework nuclear accord in Geneva to meet an end-of-March deadline, Netanyahu’s loss of black support on Capitol Hill probably means he’s lost his gamble to create a way for Congress to pass a bill that would block an agreement. “Bibi,” a congressional aide said, using Netanyahu’s nickname, “ensured there will be no veto-proof majority in the House.”
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)Why not just post the actual article from Newsweek?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)When kvetching is all you can do...
It is Tuesday
(93 posts)why don't you tell me instead of insulting other people?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Back so soon?
It is Tuesday
(93 posts)I just saw this OP on Latest Threads, and you posted without facts.
I have no idea what you are talking about - perhaps you can enlighten me?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)
procon
(15,805 posts)See the quote thingies? Others also quoted from the original source, so I don't understand the kvetching.
http://www.newsweek.com/israel-spying-iran-nuclear-talks-barack-obama-benjamin-netanyahu-white-house-316623
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)They forgot the America part long ago.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)and AIPAC needs to be outed as what they are.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)The armtwisting by AIPAC to sign onto the House letter against Obama the unforgivable act of Israel. There will be a reconning.
4now
(1,596 posts)then Netanyahu.
Thanks Bibi.(you murderous clod)
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Much as I like MondoWeiss I must agree that this smacks of being too eager for the supporting news item.
And I will be really surprised if Obama "goes after" AIPAC; that is the sort of thing AIPAC does, not the sort of thing Obama does. AIPAC "goes after" people, Obama is more of an "OK, I'll let you destroy yourself if that is what you REALLY want, but let's talk first" sort of guy.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Seriously?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)You know me pretty well Oberliner, trust your instincts.
I'm sort of on the same side as MondoWeiss, I suppose, but I never go there except following someone else's thread, if you see, they're not really my cup of tea, I'm more of a news obsessive. Places that get to focused on some issues, too special purpose, don't get my attention, and that includes pretty much any site that solely focuses on I/P or Jewish issues.
That's what I like about DU, it's general purpose, moderated, and everything shows up here eventually.
Edit: Hey and you could thank me for the support, I didn't have to do that.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Unlike the writers there, I think you see human rights as universal and are not more interested in human rights violations when Israel commits them than when Hamas does as Mondoweiss confesses to being.
I think you recognize that Mondoweiss is the flip side of the same coin as sites that are only interested in Palestinian/Arab misbehavior and minimize/excuse those of Israel.
Also, I don't think you have the sort of torturous relationship with Judaism that the founder and namesake of the site has which informs his perspective on the subject.
But I could be wrong.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)It is Tuesday
(93 posts)It's a propaganda outlet for Hamas.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)But seriously, am I not supposed to care what anybody thinks? I just should find the one guy who knows the truth and I should only listen to him? How do you know that he's the guy?
Do you only read people because you think they have a pipeline to objectivity? That causes me to wonder whether it's worth listening to you.
It is Tuesday
(93 posts)And read all the articles, both views...
I'd trust less of Mondoweiss because it has been spitting out a lot of propaganda that has already been debunked.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)I'm not the guy that is not reading here.
