Israel/Palestine

Mosby

(16,330 posts) Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:34 PM Mar 2015

Abbas Slammed by Hamas and Islamic Jihad for Urging Arab Intervention in Gaza

JNS.org – Leaders from the Palestinian terror groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad slammed Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas for purportedly suggesting that Arab states intervene in Gaza with military force resembling their action in Yemen.

Abbas made the suggestion during his remarks at the Arab League summit in Egypt, where he praised the Saudi-led intervention in Yemen as “acceptable and advisable” and said that “there are other cases, there are other countries suffering from division and discord.”

“We suffer from division. We were the first to suffer from division,” Abbas said, in reference to the split between the PA-controlled West Bank and Hamas-controlled Gaza.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/03/30/abbas-slammed-by-hamas-and-islamic-jihad-for-urging-arab-intervention-in-gaza/

Abbas wants Arab states to bomb Gaza because he doesn't like Hamas.

He sure showed his true colors, I imagine his handlers will try to walk this back somehow.

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Abbas Slammed by Hamas and Islamic Jihad for Urging Arab Intervention in Gaza (Original Post) Mosby Mar 2015 OP

Comedy gold for the ICC.. It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #1

That's why it will be the 3 state solution, King_David Mar 2015 #2

Israel should take these serious allegations to the ICC..... Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #3

Why should anyone go to the ICC? aranthus Mar 2015 #8

It's more of a court than the military tribunals that imprison 9 year-old Palestinians Scootaloo Mar 2015 #13

Of course it isn't. aranthus Apr 2015 #16

I'm not sure they would get a fair shake.... King_David Mar 2015 #9

The ICC is toothless. Why bother? Nt hack89 Mar 2015 #11

Abbas aide calls for 'Decisive Storm' against Gaza azurnoir Mar 2015 #4

Does he think that would work out well? bemildred Mar 2015 #5

He is going to break with them and take his chances the UNSC may resolve the occupation Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #6

It does seem like an odd form of unity government. nt bemildred Mar 2015 #7

Like that's going to happen. aranthus Mar 2015 #10

Abbas is a schmuck, always has been. Scootaloo Mar 2015 #12

I think Israel would prevent outside groups from attacking Gaza Mosby Mar 2015 #14

On this we agree, though for different reasons, most likely Scootaloo Mar 2015 #15

He thinks riding into Gaza on Al-Sisi's tank would be better than riding on an IDF tank? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #17

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)

1. Comedy gold for the ICC..

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:49 PM

Mar 2015

Indeed...

King_David

(14,851 posts)

2. That's why it will be the 3 state solution,

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:50 PM

Mar 2015

It de facto already is.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

3. Israel should take these serious allegations to the ICC.....

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:09 PM

Mar 2015

aranthus

(3,385 posts)

8. Why should anyone go to the ICC?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:46 PM

Mar 2015

It's not a court. It has no power. Other than to play propaganda games, why do you think anyone should take any issue to the ICC?

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

13. It's more of a court than the military tribunals that imprison 9 year-old Palestinians

Reply to aranthus (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:43 PM

Mar 2015

You seem to regard those as legitimate.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)

16. Of course it isn't.

Reply to Scootaloo (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:03 AM

Apr 2015

Israel is a sovereign. It has the right to set up courts, including military tribunals. If you want to argue that those tribunals don't afford proper due process, that's a different argument. They are at least courts of law under Israeli military legal standards. The ICC isn't a court of law. There is no international legal system for it to be a court of. Since it isn't part of a sovereign it has no authority.

King_David

(14,851 posts)

9. I'm not sure they would get a fair shake....

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:47 PM

Mar 2015

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Witness the UNSHRC....

hack89

(39,171 posts)

11. The ICC is toothless. Why bother? Nt

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:47 PM

Mar 2015

azurnoir

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4. Abbas aide calls for 'Decisive Storm' against Gaza

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:12 PM

Mar 2015

Mahmoud Al-Habbash, the religious advisor of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas called on Friday for the Saudi-led alliance, which is attacking Houthi militias in Yemen, to attack the Gaza Strip, the official PA news agency Wafa has reported.

"The Arab nation has to attack any illegal side in the Arab region with an iron hand," he said during his Friday sermon in Ramallah. "It has to start from Palestine." He insisted that the protection of legitimacy in any Arab country is the duty of all the Arab leaders. "They have to initiate attacks against outlawed people anyhow and regardless of time and place, starting from Palestine."

He insisted that what happened in Gaza when Hamas took full security control of the territory in 2007, was "a coup" and must be dealt with decisively. "People who carry out coups, must be attacked with an iron hand," he said.

In response, senior Hamas official Mahmoud Al-Zahar wrote on his Facebook page that everyone who had hoped for the Israelis to defeat Hamas is now calling for the Arabs to do it. "This, he scoffed, "is the worst kind of tyranny.

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https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/17758-abbas-aide-calls-for-decisive-storm-against-gaza

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

5. Does he think that would work out well?

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:28 PM

Mar 2015

What a dumb ass.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)

6. He is going to break with them and take his chances the UNSC may resolve the occupation

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:12 PM

Mar 2015

for him..perhaps. Otherwise this does not make any sense to me.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

7. It does seem like an odd form of unity government. nt

Reply to Jefferson23 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:26 PM

Mar 2015

aranthus

(3,385 posts)

10. Like that's going to happen.

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:47 PM

Mar 2015

The Arab world isn't going to fight Abbas' battles for him.

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

12. Abbas is a schmuck, always has been.

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:41 PM

Mar 2015

No one has ever claimed otherwise.

of course, he knows damn well they will do no such thing, because israel would flip its shit and go nuts on everyone. Thus, reinforcing his schmuckery.

Now, my question - do you share his viewpoints?

Mosby

(16,330 posts)

14. I think Israel would prevent outside groups from attacking Gaza

Reply to Scootaloo (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:07 PM

Mar 2015

Hamas is a terrorist group and as such is incapable of providing the kind of leadership the Gazans deserve. But I don't think eliminating them with an "iron hand" which would obviously involve massive civilian casualties is the way to go.

I would prefer elections.

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

15. On this we agree, though for different reasons, most likely

Reply to Mosby (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:50 PM

Mar 2015

Israel doesn't give a shit about human cost in Gaza - its politicians don't, its people mostly don't, its supporters absolutely don't. But it's not going to let Arab military forces get near its borders. Shit, Israel wouldn't even give Morsi permission to maneuver against Al Qaeda in the Sinai...when AQ was firing at Israel. No way they're going to let someone else do flyover bombings.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

17. He thinks riding into Gaza on Al-Sisi's tank would be better than riding on an IDF tank? nt

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:35 PM

Apr 2015

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