LGBT
Related: About this forumOk, I get it
It isn't all the christians who want to lock up or murder gays, it isn't most, but just a few.
I also understand with the media "if it bleeds it leads" and a minister saying things like that is going to make the headlines.
Sadly, if a church had a "gay day" to show unity with the gay community it wouldn't be covered unless Phelps showed up to protest.
But, I have no doubt many if not most churches do teach that gays are going to hell. This is apparent by the fact that only a few denomination have decided to allow openly gay people to be members, and even fewer to be ministers.
However, considering the few who hate us so much that they want us killed or locked up, and the many who feel we are sinners, sexual perverts and don't deserve the same rights as all other American Citizens, why is it so bad if we exhibit any anger toward the church?
For the last several weeks, since the NC vote, I keep hearing christians defend the church (even on this website) how Jesus taught love and loves everyone. Well, if I remember the bible says something about you will be known by your fruits, well it doesn't take threats of murder and incarceration or signs which says "god hates homosexuals" for your fruit to be rotten.
Yes, some do accept the gay community, but those few ripe fruits don't make up for the rotten ones. Most farmers would call the crop a total loss.
chollybocker
(3,687 posts)to full equality for gay people, and women, I might add.
But moderate christians, despite their majority within the ranks, have remained complicitly silent.
Religion is the problem.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Last edited Wed May 30, 2012, 12:11 PM - Edit history (1)
It is the cyanide."
--Tom Robbins
The silence of so many Christians (Silence of the Lambs? ) regarding the hatred and death speech of the christo-fascists is very worrisome. Is it from fear of rejection by their church/pastor/congregation/community? Is it closet homophobia/transphobia? IMO, progressive Christians need to start speaking up en masse, before their christo-fascist counterparts get a christo-fascist madman in high office, and start rounding us up and making us wear pink triangles before they begin their program of exterminating us.
Here's my thoughts on the christo-fascist hate agenda:
One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)In a recent sermon she titled "Nobodys Perfect" and delivered at Willow Grove United Methodist Church, the pastor of Upper Morelands longest-running church preached on why her churchs General Conference got it wrong with its stance on homosexuality.
Methodists have been debating their church stand on homosexuality for four decades. Other mainline Protestant denominations including the Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) and the United Church of Christ have in recent years moved toward accepting gay and lesbian couples. The United Church of Christ has gone the farthest by affirming gay marriage.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-05-03/methodist-homosexuality-vote/54737970/1
Being raised UCC in New England my perspective is perhaps a bit different from what is in your local area. Atleast around here there is widespread support in the liberal denominations for Affirmation of Marriage Equality.