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William769

(55,147 posts)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:28 PM Sep 2012

What's missing from pro-gay marriage TV ads? Gays

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — In one TV ad, a husband and wife talk fondly of a lesbian couple who moved into their neighborhood. In another, a married couple speaks of wanting fair treatment for their lesbian daughter. A third features a pastor talking supportively about gay unions.

Each of these ads ran recently in states with gay marriage issues on the November ballot. What's missing? Gay people speaking for themselves.

Four states are voting on gay marriage this fall, and gay rights groups are pouring tens of millions of dollars into key TV markets in hopes of breaking a 32-state losing streak on the issue. But even as gay people and same-sex relationships gain acceptance through pop culture staples such as "Modern Family" and "Glee," the idea is still seen as dicey by media strategists involved in the ballot campaigns, resulting in ads that usually involve only straight people talking about the issue.

The decision to keep gays in the background has been widely noticed in the gay community and debated on gay-oriented blogs, with some activists complaining that the move contradicts the central message of the gay rights movement for a number of years.

http://www.chron.com/news/article/What-s-missing-from-pro-gay-marriage-TV-ads-Gays-3896389.php

Poll question: Do you agree with the media strategists to not use LGBT people in the ad's?


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What's missing from pro-gay marriage TV ads? Gays (Original Post) William769 Sep 2012 OP
If we want people to know us - our desires, our struggles, xchrom Sep 2012 #1
Thats exactly how I feel. William769 Sep 2012 #2
I agree, but if this strategy works... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #4
I had to vote "I don't know" because closeupready Sep 2012 #3
I vote "who cares, as long as the ad's are effective" Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2012 #5
Back-flips, okay, but I'd draw the line at blindfolding. closeupready Sep 2012 #6
Well I'd say that all the support helps. Fearless Sep 2012 #7
I get the feeling the strategists are on the right track Glaug-Eldare Sep 2012 #8
+1 Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #9
It is possible to walk and chew gum at the same time. MNBrewer Sep 2012 #10

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
1. If we want people to know us - our desires, our struggles,
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:38 PM
Sep 2012

Who we are - we always need to speak for our selves - it's nice to have grandparents speak in support - but we should tell our own stories.

William769

(55,147 posts)
2. Thats exactly how I feel.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:45 PM
Sep 2012

I have always been one to fight my own battles.

Remember awhile ago I started to tell the story of our MCC congregation buying a baptist Chruch & we were told to act "normal" so we wouldn't hurt our chances of buying the Church?

Well this may be a good time to tell that story.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
4. I agree, but if this strategy works...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:43 AM
Sep 2012

then I'm for it. I'm no expert on these sorts of issue ads, and maybe they think the straight people can relate to other straight people who look like them.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
3. I had to vote "I don't know" because
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:38 PM
Sep 2012

I personally feel that people favor equal treatment for gay people if they personally know gay people, and especially if they have openly gay siblings or children/family, or even neighbors.

So in that respect, an ad presenting a gay couple explaining why they want to be treated equally, even if done really well and diplomatically, can possibly still come off as 'shrewish' and maybe even whiney if your target audience is hostile to gay people.

On the other hand, just about everyone probably is aware of this issue, and that it will be something that needs to be thought about and addressed sooner or later, as society progresses, and so perhaps success is more likely if ad proponents are of the "Folks Like Us" model that has been used effectively in political discussions for centuries.

So I'm not sure if there is one approach that's better, or if different approaches would work better in different markets...?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,337 posts)
5. I vote "who cares, as long as the ad's are effective"
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:29 AM
Sep 2012

This is advertising. It's meant to sway an audience in an election. I don't care if they use circus clowns doing back-flips.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
7. Well I'd say that all the support helps.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:59 PM
Sep 2012

And that all of us should do our part. I don't think allies do us a disservice nor do I think that we do ourselves a disservice.

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
8. I get the feeling the strategists are on the right track
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:39 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)

I voted "don't care," but I suspect there's a very good reason for the absence of gays in these ads. 90+% of the electorate is straight, and has an easier time relating to straight voices than gay ones. Gay voices are mainly persuasive to those who already support LGBT rights, but don't win new supporters as effectively. The target is straight voters who are on the fence about LGBT issues, and that's who these ads are designed to appeal to.

Ads featuring gay speakers have a place, but I expect that to be more suited to "get out the vote" efforts.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
10. It is possible to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:56 PM
Sep 2012

We all know that the key to greater acceptance of GLBT people hinges on being out, on being visible, on being present in every day life. If we're left out of that for the TV ads.... it just winds up being straights talking to straights about gays.

While that's important, it's not everything!

I don't watch TV, or I would have seen the ads here in MN.

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