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Tien1985

(920 posts)
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 08:02 AM Aug 2013

Trans*

Why do people feel so personally wronged when a trans* person comes out?

How is someone asking you to use an appropriate pronoun an imposition and a hardship to you?

If you know Bobby next door your whole childhood, and one day he said, "hey, actually, I go by Bob now." Would that cause some kind of identity crisis for people?

It just seems ridiculously childish to me. I understand not getting it, I understand mistakes. But actively refusing to use appropriate pronouns and acting like a victim when called on it seems so over the top.

I'm just frustrated.

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Trans* (Original Post) Tien1985 Aug 2013 OP
Maybe they think it's a type of lying about their "real" gender. Neoma Aug 2013 #1
Yes, It's hard for me to understand any mature person doing this. I always come back to the same stevenleser Aug 2013 #2
K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #3
People fear what they don't understand Marrah_G Aug 2013 #4
I don't know LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #5

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
1. Maybe they think it's a type of lying about their "real" gender.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:22 AM
Aug 2013

Coupled with them choosing to be Trans*. Thus the cosmetic comments and the waiting for their plumbing surgery to use proper pronouns.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
2. Yes, It's hard for me to understand any mature person doing this. I always come back to the same
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:33 AM
Aug 2013

question when confronted by examples of people engaging in bigotry. "How does it affect YOU", in other words, why are YOU so upset about it?

How does somebody else's gay marriage affect YOU. How does fairness towards Black people affect YOU. Etc.

And directly to your point, how does not being a jerk and using the name and pronoun someone attributes to themselves affect anyone else negatively? I don't get it.

I don't get the reactions of some people, particularly here.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
5. I don't know
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:01 AM
Aug 2013

But I was once told all human interaction can be broken down into power dynamics.

For M->F transexuals maybe its resentment that someone would betray their gender for gender role that society views as being inferior, and people feel like they are undermining the order set up by society. Similarly, maybe F->M transexuals are seen as upstarts trying to take a position of power that society did not give them to begin with. Feelings of jealousy and betrayal being the fuel of their rage in both cases.

Again, I don't know, im just speculating. I don't understand why people hate others over something that does not harm them in anyway.

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